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As God-fearing Christians who believe the Bible to be the unchanging Word of God, it is up to us to believe what the Good Book says in it's entirety, and then do our best to live our lives in accordance with all of it, not just the parts we particularly like. Having said that, I submit to you, the faithful KDE-Look.org viewers, my very fist wallpaper and submission to this site!




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 Please,

 
 by Soyburg on: Oct 28 2003
 
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remind me why it is called the good book?


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 Please,

 
 by timPLEZdrown527 on: Oct 28 2003
 
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Because it lets you know what is moral, such as how and when it is appropriate to buy slaves and keep them as your property. Just remember, once you have bought your slaves, in accordance with God's Will, be very careful how you choose to beat them, to insure you do not sin. Don't beat them hard enough to kill them on the same day. Instead, beat them only hard enough, so they do not die for the next day or two (Exodus 21:20-21). It is the moral thing to do and God clearly states in the Bible this is ok!


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 Re: Please,

 
 by stunji on: Oct 28 2003
 
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HAHAHAHA!


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 Good one

 
 by gvs on: Oct 28 2003
 
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I first thought this to be a joke!
Yet google turned up that it is really in the bible!
LOL


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 Re: Good one

 
 by Chris308 on: Oct 28 2003
 
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You had to google to confirm? Sad, I guess you do not own a Bible of your own!


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 Re: Re: Good one

 
 by Soyburg on: Oct 28 2003
 
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Most people on this planet don't.


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 Re: Re: Re: Good one

 
 by lazychris2000 on: Oct 29 2003
 
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i wouldnt go as far as to say that....


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Good one

 
 by Soyburg on: Oct 29 2003
 
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According to http://www.religioustolerance.org/worldrel.htm there are about 2 billion Christians on this planet. There are about 6 billion people living on this planet. A majority would be more than 3 billion. Am I missing something? Or do you suspect that all the Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, Atheists and Jews have a bible hidden somewhere?


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 Re: Re: Good one

 
 by gvs on: Oct 30 2003
 
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What would an atheist possibly do with a bible?
It would be a very silly thing to own.


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 The old testament

 
 by kbeaumont on: Oct 28 2003
 
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Funny how when someone points out flaws in christianity, they always point to the books in the Old Testament before Christ.
Christianity means following of the teachings of Jesus Christ.
In the New Testament jesus said to basically ignore the Old Testament and follow his teachings in the New Testament. The Old Testament was what the followers of Abraham used, this included Jews and Mohammad. Both Jesus Christ and Mohammad taught another path. There is not one religion today that believes everything written in the Old Testament. Not Judaism, Christianity or Islam. There is also some question if the book of leviticus even belongs in the Bible at all.


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 Re: The old testament

 
 by timPLEZdrown527 on: Oct 28 2003
 
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"Slaves, obey your human masters with fear and trembling, in the sincerity of your heart, as to Christ." (Ephesians 6:5)

Last I checked, Ephesians is in the New Testament, so we as Christians are allowed to keep slaves. God says so. It is in the Bible.


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 Re: Re: The old test

 
 by whoots on: Oct 28 2003
 
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This is a classic example of bible misrepresentation. First, if you notice he's using the NIV bible. The NIV is a "bastardized" bible according to very many protestant scholars. It is based upon bogus manuscripts "Vaticanus & Siniaticus" which where found to be unauthentic forged scrolls. The NIV bible is 90% based on these phoney manuscripts that where discovered in a "Dump" by the Roman Catholic church. Next, if you use a real bible (King James) which is based upon what is called "received text" the word "slave/slaves" is only used 3 times in the entire bible and none of which in the original Hebrew & Greek convey the meaning of American Slavery (Chattle Slavery) with which the author of this thread is cunningly trying to justify.


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 Re: Re: Re: The old test

 
 by timPLEZdrown527 on: Oct 28 2003
 
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Use whichever translation you prefer. There were many words for "slaves" used in the original Greek, Hewbrew and Aramaic of the texts. There is no getting around the fact that God supports slavery and repeats numerous times, throughout His Bible, telling the slaves to obey their masters. I did not write the texts, God did. As Christians, it is our duty to follow ALL of the Bible, not just the parts we like.


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 Re: Re: The old testament

 
 by Brandybuck on: Oct 29 2003
 
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You've taken this verse completely out of context. Your quote is telling slaves who are Christians how to behave. Just a tiny bit later on, it tells masters how to behave:

"And masters, treat your slaves in the same way. Do not threaten them, since you know that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no favoritism with him." (Ephesians 6:9)

Paul is not condoning slavery, but merely recognizing it as a part of Ephesus culture.


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 Re: Re: Re: The old testament

 
 by timPLEZdrown527 on: Oct 29 2003
 
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True, Paul is not condoning slavery at all, nor did he condemn it. God does not condemn slavery, Jesus does not condemn slavery, not does Paul. Read the 10 commandments where we are told to give our slaves the Sabbath day off, and also told not to covet our neighbors' slaves. The Bible supports slavery throughout. Nowhere does the Bible condemn the practice of slavery, nor do any of its main characters condemn the practice. The right to own humans as property is supported throughout the Bible. Such are the morals of God, Jesus, Paul & the Bible. As God-fearing Christians, it is our duty to uphold ALL of the Bible, not just the parts we like.


I like to force my morals and religious opinions on everyone, at the most inappropriate of times and places, whether anyone wishes to hear them or not!
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 Re: The old testament

 
 by sviten on: Oct 29 2003
 
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"In the New Testament jesus said to basically ignore the Old Testament and follow his teachings in the New Testament."

I can tell, you haven't done much bible-reading. God has a lot to say to all of us. One of which is Jesus's words, "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished." You can read that and the context in Matthew chapter 5.

Also, if your statement is true, why has Leviticus persisted for 3-4 thousand years?

Another cool thing about the bible is that certain concepts are really important to God. Those things are repeated. For example, read Joshua chapter 1 for tips on how to lead a nation. Courage is mentioned 4 times. Likewise, many of the things written in Leviticus are repeated in other books (mainly Numbers, but you will find a consistent theme, if you look).


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 Exposing the devil

 
 by whoots on: Oct 28 2003
 
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This is a classic example of bible misrepresentation. First, if you notice he's using the NIV bible. The NIV is a "bastardized" bible according to very many protestant scholars. It is based upon bogus manuscripts "Vaticanus & Siniaticus" which where found to be unauthentic forged scrolls. The NIV bible is 90% based on these phoney manuscripts that where discovered in a "Dump" by the Roman Catholic church. Next, if you use a real bible (King James) which is based upon what is called "received text" the word "slave/slaves" is only used 3 times in the entire bible and none of which in the original Hebrew & Greek convey the meaning of American Slavery (Chattle Slavery) with which the author of this thread is cunningly trying to justify.

Also, the word Deacon, which comes from the Greek word diakones means "servant" In the Greek (NT) and in the Hebrew (OT) this word servant is the most accurate translation. Moreover, servants (slaves) in the old testiment where set free by their masters after a peroid of 7 years according to Mosaic law. Remember, Jacob was a servant (slave) of Laben for 7 years for the love he had for Rachel; however, because Jacob was deceived by Leban and given Leah, he worked another 7 years for the hand of Rachael.

I feel great pity for the author of this thread. He/she is obviously very "ignorant" in biblical etomology.

Linuxly Yours,
Whoots


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 Re: Exposing the devil

 
 by timPLEZdrown527 on: Oct 28 2003
 
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Of course they were set free, provided their masters did not beat them to death before the 7 years were up!


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 Re: Exposing the devil

 
 by sviten on: Oct 29 2003
 
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Slave(s) is only found twice in the KJV. The KJV uses the terms bondmen and bondmaids. These are workers who are bound to work off a debt they have outstanding with their master. Every 7 years, all debts were forgiven in Israel. Hence all slaves (bondservants) were free of their debts. This is different than the wretchedness that stains American history where people where truly considered property.

You make many damning claims about the NIV. Anyone can talk, can you site your sources? Rather than throw around names of scholars with differing opinions, let's let God be the one to choose if something is "bastardized" or not. By that I mean, have people come to know the Lord Jesus as their savior and friend by the words of the (insert non-KJV bible here)? Has anyone grown in their faith and lead a blessed life by following the words in the (insert non-KJV bible here)? The answer to both of those questions is yes; I have seen it with my own eyes. Futhermore, in mission fields around the world, people are coming to have a personal relationship with Jesus through incomplete translations of the scriptures into their native language from bibles in the missionary's native tongue (America isn't the only country that sends missionaries). The translators were not an army of 54 (KJV) or 115 (NIV) Ph. D. touting scholars, but one person who does not speak Greek, or Hebrew or Aramaic or Latin. They just made themselves available for God to use them. And He did and will continue to do so as long as there are willing servants.

So the next time, you are tempted to bash the NIV or another translation, consider that the person may not know the real Truth. The lost people of this world need hope, not infighting and doubt.


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 Re: Exposing the dev

 
 by gvs on: Oct 29 2003
 
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But I did find this part in the King James bible (online)...


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 you have GOT to be

 
 by jamboarder on: Oct 28 2003
 
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f*@&ing kidding me! Even IF this was meant to be humor/irony/whatever, it simply... isn't... funny...


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