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Anyone who reads the madpenguin reviews has probably already seen this, but i thought it was worth posting here to see what other people make of it.

The people at Novell have been busy and have come up with a new menu /interface for gnome, that I think looks very promising indeed. The links below are for 2 short videos of the menu being used and also for the original article.

The original article from mad penguin.org

http://www.madpenguin.org/cms/?m=show&id=7150

2 short vids of the menu being used

http://madpenguin.org/images/reviews/sled10/siia/sled10desktop.html

http://madpenguin.org/images/reviews/sled10/siia/beagle.html



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 Kde needs something

 
 by Michaelaustin on: Jul 12 2006  
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I really like what Novell has done with this. From the videos I have seen of it, it seems quicker to use then a menu (assuming you have allot of applications installed).

Theres an equivilant being made for KDE, its called tastymenu. It doesnt have the ability to search for files though. Hopefully this will be included in the future via beagle or kat or something.

Hopefully KDE 4 will follow Novells approach and offer something similar as well as the menu system. Hoefully they could use Tennor as the back end engine to catalogue all the files.

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 Nothing really new

 
 by lucher on: Jul 12 2006  
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Well... The whole thing reminds me on Windows XP.

The whole start menu consists of a few predefined default actions (grouped by 'system'), a button to access all applications and a part for the favourite apps.

the innovations are:

(1) A combobox selects which apps are displayed - favourite, most recently used ... in the current KMenu this is just configurable in the options dialog. that's indeed a good point.

(2) the system part with access to plugged drives and monitoring. I believe, this is displaced. Monitoring is done through plugins for kicker/plasma. Ideas to put plugins into the KMenu are not new and could move the Media applet from Kicker to the KMenu directly - though is it necessary?

(3) The application browser is nothing new at all. KBFX primarily does the same thing though in a smaller window. The filter option is already implemented in the current KMenu (and must be included in KBFX as well), but it just disables filtered groups/menus without making them invisible.

In the end: We already have all ingredients - its just the final app which collects them all and which si missing.


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 Re: Nothing really n

 
 by pleb989 on: Jul 12 2006  
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I agree that there is nothing spectacularly innovative in the menu.

But then again I would far rather have a useable and nice to look at interface, that looks a little bit like XP, than a menu system that is totally different from anything seen on other OS’s but does this by sacrificing usability.


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 You got my vote!

 
 by nbensa on: Jul 12 2006  
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While everybody likes KBFX, I think it just plain sucks! It's unintuitive and hard to navigate.

On the other hard, Novell's menu is simple, easy on the eyes, and it seems easy to use too.

KDE should copy the good ideas not the bad ones. Unfortunately, Open Source is full of bad ideas just because they are "fancy" and/or "eyecandy." It's a shame...


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 Re: You got my vote!

 
 by Belfegor on: Jul 12 2006  
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I agree in some things you said but, in this case i don't like the fact of not being able to view all the apps installed with just one click. I prefer kbfx to the standard menu of KDE, but this one is more apelative indeed. Maybe kbfx team could make something in this direction.


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 Re: Re: You got my vote!

 
 by nbensa on: Jul 12 2006  
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Hello!

Do you REALLY need to see ALL the applications installed? I don't think so. It's counter-productive.

And BTW, you don't see all the applications neither with KBFX nor with the standard Kmenu. The only shell I know that shows every executable installed is double-tab in bash.

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Norberto


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 Re: Re: You got my vote!

 
 by gollum on: Jul 12 2006  
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Wat I would like is to have side by side in the panel a KBFX and a New_multifnction_apllet to be able to access in one click my favorites, most used, to search for something or to search in the kbfx menu for the app i whant.
But I first loved the Kmenu as now, even if I miss few things.


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 I like it

 
 by Dapper on: Jul 12 2006  
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hi, I have used most versions of Windows and the menu is the same in all of them, as far as I am concerned it will never change, what Novell have done with the Gnome menu is sensible and I like it, but still I think the KDE devs have something up there sleeves for KDE4 that nobody knows about, personally I just use Katapult :p.


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 like windows?

 
 by Michaelaustin on: Jul 12 2006  
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I fail to see how this is similar to Windows. The only thing I can think it is similar too is the Control Centre.

The normal KDE menu is closer to Windows then this. Wether you are using kmenu or the lbfx menu.

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 non-hierarchical

 
 by eet on: Jul 15 2006  
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Exactly right. It is totally different from both Windows and KDE's menus because it is non-hierachical.

I think most users will seldomly use more than 4-10 applications and they can put those into the main menu.

If you look at it like that, a hierachical menu with categories is a wast of time for _most_ of the time.

Categories are good when you're actually looking for the right app to perform a job but aren't exactly sure which app that is. When you know which app you want it is a bit of a strain to go back and have to to remember in which category this app resides.

Also in another respect this new menu can work pretty well: When you need to use an application that isn't in the main menu and that you need to open the 'application browser' for, you're likely to need to use it several times consecutively because you're probably trying to perform a task that seldomly needs to be performed.

In such a case, this application will appear under the 'recently used' applications in the main menu after you've started it for the first time. So you actually won't have to open the application browser all-too-often, I think.

All in all this seems quite ergonomic to me.

Another advantage for 'lazy' users is that - although exactly that has been criticized above - you've got it all in one place. All the really common important info and tasks start in the main menu: Whether you want to know how much free disk space there is, whether you want to install an application or want to access the system settings, the icon is present in the main menu. No need to remember where you find these things, always the mouse just goes to the right-bottom-corner.

That is not any breakthrough or new idea it simply is quite well-thought-out.

It obviously looked more to Apple than to Windows for its inspiration.

Together with Gimme-bar the best idea for starting apps that I've seen lately.


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 Re: non-hierarchical

 
 by eet on: Jul 15 2006  
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I meant 'bottom-left' corner obviously... -_-


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