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Clickable slashes in path bar(filemanag)

  

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Submitted:  Feb 24 2006
Updated:  Apr 10 2006

Description:

It is a mix between a normal URL bar (where we use the keyboard to change the path from the bar), and a "fixed" URL bar, where we have to click on arrows to change the path from the bar (like in Windows Vista).

The idea is to make clickable the slashes in the URL bar. So, if we want to change the path by using the URL bar, we can:

- click on a slash, and a menu with all the available folders is displayed;
- write the path in the URL bar with the keyboard (normal method)

I think this could be a way to make more rapid the navigation in the file system, but I don't know if it's really feasible...

Update 2006-04-10: the slashes are slightly bigger but don't take more place. Concerning mockup , there is a separated version for Konqueror and Firefox, now it should work better.




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 Good idea, but...

 
 by Ekardnam on: Apr 4 2006  
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I think the clickable path bar is interesting, however, I still prefer Konqueror's current address bar; can’t live without auto-completion.

This is a kind of hybrid between the two bars. Good idea, but I don't really like it. Here are some reasons:
1. The slashes (/) are too small to click.
2. This may sound like a paradox, but it's easy to accidentally click on a slash and be sent somewhere - very confusing. To me, the address bar is a text field, nothing should happen if I click inside it. I often double click/drag to select text.
3. Doesn't look good. Yeah, this could be improved.

Solution? I thought about another way doing this. The bar should work like the current one, without any clickable areas. However, if you hold down a key, let's say ctrl, then the bar becomes a clickable path bar (change in the GUI to show this). So, I you want to navigate up n folders hold down ctrl and click the folder's name.
The key should be something else than ctrl (you use ctrl to copy/paste/cut etc; it wouldn't look good if the bar switched between the two "states" too often).


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 copy/move

 
 by Fri13 on: Apr 9 2006  
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How about clickable slashes + "copy/move to" menu? User could click slash and select from list where to go without a need to click icons on "main" panel of konqueror.

KDE it just must be...
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 Not so great

 
 by hachaboob on: Apr 9 2006  
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This is essentially how Nautilus and Windows Explorer in Windows Vista is doing it. But they are doing it better by not having the user click on a relatively small target. With these programs you click on the folder names.

Your idea is better than nautilus in the fact that you can change folders also.


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 where

 
 by The-Q on: Apr 10 2006  
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where did you get the idea from? is it original? (because i really liked it ;)


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 Re: where

 
 by tuxrover on: Apr 12 2006  
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Hi, actually I noticed that Konqueror was a very good filemanager because the autocompletion of the address bar allows to gain time: you just have to type the first letter(s) of the directory that you want and a list with all the directories starting with the same letter(s) is displayed.

In the Open/Save_As Dialog of Gnome apps (The Gimp, Inkscape..), there is an address bar with buttons. That also allows to gain time, without having to use the keyboard. However the problem is that we _cannot_ use the keyboard (or I din't find how) or copy-paste a location, what can be quite frustrating.

I found both ideas good (of KDE apps and Gnome apps), and in autumn 2005, when I had nothing else to do, I drawed with Inkscape an address bar that would behave normally, except that we could click on the slashes. A few month later when I got on KDE Look I noticed a new KDE4 Brainstorm category, so I improved my svg mockup and I posted it with the name of "clickable slashes".

In fact, the first idea was to have buttons in the address bar on which we could click to display a list of the directories. But it didn't resolve the problem that we couln't change the location directly by editing the address bar with the keyboard or copy-paste an URL.

The second idea was to have button on which we could click to display a list, and double-click to change the buttons name with the keyboard, so to change the location (e.g. if on the button it's written "images" and you edit it into "videos", you'll go to the videos folder). But we still cannot copy-past an URL.

The third idea is the «clickable slashes». The problem is that it can be difficult for certain persons to click on the slash (or with a notebook touchpad). A solution could be to make adjustable the width of the clickable slashes in KControl.

A fourth idea, in the first comments page, Lucher spoke about some CDE apps that had buttons under each directory of the address bar. I'll try to do a mockup of that. The inconvient is this would take more place.


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 mmmhh...

 
 by anytimeIsLunchtime on: Apr 10 2006  
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It's all very well and a great idea and so... but it does impose a great obstruction on fixing typos in the address-bar. With these clickable slashes, (or dirnames) we cannot place the keyboard-cursor on them. Does anyone smarter than me have a good idea to solve this?

(Or am I mistaken? If so, please tell me.)


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 Re: mmmhh...

 
 by pagalmes on: Apr 14 2006  
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Have a look at the "Good idea, but..." comment. Those clickable thingies could appear only when you press a special character (ctrl or something else...).


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 another solution

 
 by opensas on: Apr 21 2006  
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I think the best solutiojn would be to ctrl-click (not just clicking) on a folder (not just the slash), and then the menu with sub-folders would appear.

That would solve the problem of clashing with current behaviour (I'm aldo very fond of konqueror's autocompletion) and the small click area.

It would be great to have a key-board short to achieve the same result (perhaps ctrl-down)

JM2C (just my 2 cents)

Saludos

Sas


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 Re: another solution

 
 by gollum on: May 14 2006  
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I agree.
ctrl+click on a directory to open, lets say, in a new tab, or displaying a list of subdirectories.
souds great.


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