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Menu Editor (add a filter + new mockup)

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Downloads:  141
Submitted:  Jan 10 2006
Updated:  Jan 11 2006

Description:

First of all, thanks for the new category. I hope many good suggestions for KDE4 will be posted.

Here is my contribute. I’m not really satisfied with the Menu Editor. A feature I would love is to a filter, a filter like the one in Control Center. If you have many items, that would be very handy if you’re looking for a specific item.

> Please read this, it’s important!
If you support my idea (add a filter to Menu Editor) you might want to vote “Good”. I’ve posted a new mockup of a new Menu Editor here, because there are other things I don’t like with the Editor. If you dislike that one, but still want a filter, still vote “Good”. (And if you like the new editor, but don’t want a filter, vote “Bad”.) It’s getting a little bit confusing now, just one more thing: If you like “my” Menu Editor, please post a comment with good/bad things, improvements and so on. If many people like it I might post it separately later.
> Simply: If you want to add a filter, vote good, otherwise vote bad. If you want the “new” Menu Editor, post a comment.

Well, first of all: that’s bad with the current one?
- Sometimes when moving items it can be very annoying.
- Troublesome to find a specific item.

What’s good with the new one?
+ Moving becomes much easier.
+ Yeah, you can use the filter.

The bad thing is that it takes much more space. But I think it looks better, even if the picture I “drew” is rather ugly.

Screenshot 1 shows the current Menu Editor with a filter field. The picture itself looks horrible, but it is the idea that’s important.

Screenshot 2 shows the new Menu Editor (left half). It reminds of both the tree view and the icon view. (You can choose between the two different view modes in e.g. Control Center. Maybe this new widget (?) can be included there too?)) Clicking on the arrow (triangle) expands the submenu. Maybe it should be expanded by clicking on the “box”? Arrows pointing down are expanded submenus.
Those without arrows are items. Maybe the difference should be made clearer?
The blue box is the selected item.

Screenshot 3 shows when you’re trying to move “Control Center”. (Drag and drop).
The first line indicates that you’re about to move it between the “Browsers” and “Graphics” submenus, (Please observe! Not into the Browsers submenu.)
The frame around “Settings” indicates that you’re about to move “Control Center” into the “Settings” submenu – you just have to drag the Control Center box over the submenu.
The last line shows that you want to move the item to Settings->Appearance, between the items “Background” and “Colors”.

This shows how it basically could look. Right now it is only black lines, and doesn’t look very good. The picture is also a little bit confusing, but keep in mind that “in reality” only one line/frame will be showed (not three at once). I’m sure the graphics would look better “for real”.

Well, I guess that’s all. Just some small things:
- When the list is full a scrollbar will show up. (always show a scroll bar, but disabled when not full?)
- When moving an item to top/bottom within the frame, scroll up/down.
- When holding an item over a sub menu, expand it – what do you think?
- It would be pretty cool if you could drop items over the new/delete-buttons. When dropping on “New”, duplicate the dropped item(s), and dropping on delete of course deletes them.
- The size is not correct. It may be smaller/bigger. And keep in mind that there is a right part which I haven’t included.
- Made the "boxes" clearer? Right now it may be difficult to seperate the boxes.
- Hide the "right part" (where you edit the items), and show it in a seperate window if yo double click an item (or right click, select "Edit" or something in the popup menu)?

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Press "Download" to see a edited mockup by David Cornejo.
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My own comments: That could be really good. I don't know about other people, but I rarly use the advance settings. This picture lacks the toolbar with Create New Item/Sub Menu, Delete and so on. If it's arranged like this, the main window could be much wider.

I guess that all, this time. Thanks for reading this. I’ve used icons from the icon set “Crystal”, can be found on KDE-look.
Any new ideas/suggestions/comments? Is anything unclear? (Sorry for my poor English) Please write!




Changelog:

Version 0.1
11/1 - Added a "question" in the end
- Added edited mockup ny David Cornejo
10/1 - Added to KDE-look




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 haha

 
 by Superstoned on: Jan 11 2006
 
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as you see - you get voted up, but not many people react. i think most think the same as i do: the search is great, i hope someone can implement it. but the new icon view, well, its kind'a big, and i think KDE 4 will introduce some new views anyway - we'll just have to wait to see what will be available and what will be the best choice.

btw: i applaud you for this effort as we shouldn't forget anything when moving to KDE4 :D
the menueditor is some of the apps that might very well be neglected, and while it isn't used a lot, it IS very important.


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 Re: haha

 
 by Ekardnam on: Jan 11 2006
 
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Yeah, it is big and clumsy. But I think an important thing with the Menu Editor is to move the items around.
Maybe the "main" windows should be just the part I've "drawn", then if you doubleclick on an item (or rightclick->choose something...) the edit windows will pop up and you may edit the selected item. Just an idea, maybe it's not that userfriendly? :/

Well, I'm really excited about how KDE4 will be like. =)


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 Re: Re: haha

 
 by Superstoned on: Jan 11 2006
 
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the way you drawn it looks much cleaner, granted. and maybe you're right, not showing the right side at all might make things more clear.


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 etc

 
 by Linuster on: Jan 12 2006
 
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How about better support for editing from the menu itself? Instead of opening a separate application, I want to just be able to drag menu entries around (like in windblows). Editing and deleting is already supported... dragging and adding new entries is needed.


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 kmenuedit

 
 by samoht on: Jan 12 2006
 
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Kmenuedit is also missing a "sort alphabetical"-button. Very annoying! You can find your apps faster when the order is correct.


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 re

 
 by logon123 on: Apr 1 2010
 
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How about better support for editing from the menu itself? Instead of opening a separate application, I want to just be able to drag menu entries around (like in windblows). Editing and deleting is already supported... dragging and adding new entries is needed.


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