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Decor position

  

KDE4 Brainstorm

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Downloads:  255
Submitted:  Dec 31 2005
Updated:  Jul 20 2006

Description:

I'm not programmer, I just came with a simple ide. If someone is able to developed this ... What You think about this?

Window decoration (WD) position. Those buttoms represents the Title Alignment and also WD position. See the first picture ;)

The download file is only a screenshot.




Changelog:

I have just change the 'type' from 'Window Decorations'.




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 good idea

 
 by tomoe on: Dec 31 2005  
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i think some people will say that it's uneccessary but i love that idea...

I don't like when people use one concept again and again and again like with a lot of the windecos where most of them basically just look like plastic.. maybe slightly changed)
I'ts good that sometimes people come up with really new concepts .. and that one certainly is ..
well i don't know if i would use it .. but it gives you a lot new possibilities ...

lol internet
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 Re: good idea

 
 by 6thpink on: Jan 12 2006  
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Nothing new really, fvwm can do that and even put it in a different place for every window.

Anyway, I agree that to put this into kde would be a nice idea, and not too hard to implement. If I remember ok, the IceWM kwin deco can already do that (well, only to the bottom), so, to extend the feature to the rest of standard decos should not be so hard. The feature is already present. I dont know if to change it to be on the left or the right would be any more complex, but I think that it should not.

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 good idea

 
 by darkelder on: Dec 31 2005  
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I also would like to see and use this however in my opinion I believe crystal would be a better choice of windeco

http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=13969


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 good idea

 
 by darkelder on: Dec 31 2005  
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I also would like to see and use this however in my opinion I believe crystal would be a better choice of windeco

http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=13969


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 Re: oops

 
 by darkelder on: Dec 31 2005  
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sorry for double


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 style

 
 by sefur on: Jan 1 2006  
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Plastic its only an example I think that this stuff should be global i KDE - do not depend on decors style.


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 Left, right?

 
 by logixoul on: Feb 12 2006  
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How would the titlebar be drawn on the left or the right side? I can't quite imagine except with the text rotated vertically, which would be extremely unpractical.


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 Re: Left, right?

 
 by sabby7890 on: Jul 20 2006  
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Maybe like this?

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This can be unpractical, but you don't have to use it:)


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 Re: Re: Left, right?

 
 by logixoul on: Jul 20 2006  
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Indeed. Thing is, I don't think anybody at all would use it (except perhaps for an initial period of roughly 10 minutes due to the "wow" effect).


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 Re: Re: Left, right?

 
 by gollum on: Jul 25 2006  
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One of the force of open source is to be able to be open to anybody.

And I can see billon of people whose natural writing is vertical, in Asia.

So I belive It would be a GREAT stuff for Asian people to be able to place the deco-bar on the side ( and on the side they want ! ).


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 no need for KDE4

 
 by thomas12777 on: Jul 20 2006  
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this can be done with kwin3 and is purely deco relative
as the deco
1. can decide where to put the titlebararea,
2. will have to implement the appereance anyway (simple rotation can look crap and be slow/inefficient)

so if you show an example where this makes sense and find a developer who likes the example you can have it right now


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 Re: no need for KDE4

 
 by logixoul on: Jul 20 2006  
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While in general you're right, with kwin3 the integration would be poor. If the KDE HIG advised developers to implement this and if the windeco KCM was changed to look and act as in the mockup, that would be something to be happy with (assuming that the movable bar idea makes sense).

If you are seeking a tangible issue with your comment, here you go:
Every windeco developer that wants to implement this functionality would have to redo the config UI (or copy it from another windeco at least, which is still no good).


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 Re: Re: no need for KDE4

 
 by thomas12777 on: Jul 20 2006  
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no need to shout.

btw, every deco i've seen so far comes with an own kcmkwin part (well, you couldn't plug your square next to the border size combo, but only below ;)

so i really see no need to put this into a framework (especially not on a OPP language, where you could simply inherit a deco with this functionality and just change the paint function)

and (just to clarify) providing this as kwindeco API is not it - you'll still have to implement it as deco developer (completely, there's nothing kwin can do for you but the config section - which could still be ignored by deco developers)

so as this is completely up to the decos, without any need of an extended kwin api and the only profit is the prefabbed config section (that could be created by c'n'p around 10 lines of code into your decos config part)...
Q:
WHY exactly does this need to be part of kwin4 as it can fully be provided on any kwin, just up to the deco

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i guess you're rather interested in a HIG entry than in an API extension?
(so: "decos should provide the ability to support any postion", rather than just KWinConfig::titlebarPosition())


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 Re: Re: Re: no need for KDE4

 
 by thomas12777 on: Jul 20 2006  
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reply to myself (didn't read your post exactly enough):

ok: as it falls back to the config part anyway:
1) writing such config is the least of all tasks (clickclickclickediclick... and the write the setting, two lines of code to write yourself)

2) if a deco does not support this, kcmkwin shouldn't display the config anyway (as it than only wastes space)

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a. i doubt the HIG would include this (as it's part of styling, rather than of UI)
b. even if it does: guess how many deco developers would read the HIG section on decos if they have a cute one in mind allready ;)

the best way to propagate this idea is to write and release such a deco, see if it's liked and than have deco developers include it if their users mourn around why deco xyz cannot do this =)


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