Sons of God (Romans 8:14)

Propaganda- (noun)
1. information that is spread for the purpose of promoting some cause.
2. Material disseminated by the advocates or opponents of a cause

So to answer your question yes! This is created in GIMP. Hense promotion of open source. If you don't like the art than tough; shut up, vote it down and move on. Is that to hard for you? This is relavant since tim uses KDE on Linux. I think this is quite good. Not many free-hand wallpapers.

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Re: Re: Propaganda

by rafiki on: Jan 22 2004

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That's a totally vague and unhelpful definition. Try this one from the OED:

Propaganda:

The systematic propagation of information or ideas by an interested party, esp. in a tendentious way in order to encourage or instil a particular attitude or response. Also, the ideas, doctrines, etc., disseminated thus; the vehicle of such propagation.

That's what's irking us. It's an organized attempt to change our viewpoints.

Re: Re: Re: Propagan

by slackdude on: Jan 22 2004

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Isn't that what everyone here does anyways??? KDE is better/greater/faster. Some BSD postings. C'mon...

I understand that this is a place for KDE stuff, but as many post here about what they love/believe as those that post plain graphics and KDE stuff. No one is trying to push anyone into anything. It's there for whoever wants it, whether they are of the Christian faith or not.

Example: Look at Rafiki's latest posting. Personally, I think it's juvenile, but maybe those that hate Tim's stuff will like it. I get mildly irked, move on, and that's it. Why can't everyone else do the same with Tim's submissions if they don't agree?? There have also been postings about other religions/faiths, but no one has harped on those people either. Why must it be with Tim's/Alethia's/any other Christian believer???

It's this double standard that enrages me. I can understand that you don't like it, but don't make the decision for the rest of us. Speak only for yourself, since that's the only person you can be accountable of.

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Prop

by rafiki on: Jan 22 2004

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Would you walk into a church and start walking up and down the aisles, handing out KDE cds?

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by alethia on: Jan 22 2004

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again showing your intelligence. There is a time and place for everything. Tim positing Christian based art using Linux with GIMP on KDE is proper for a web site for posting wallpapers. Hense, Tim's posting does not upset the workings of the site, but actually adhears to what the site is for. Upsetting a church service, by not following the process at hand is wrong.
You are just so smart, it kills me.

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by 0xdeadbeef on: Jan 23 2004

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This site is called kde-look, not gimp-look. As far as I know, the gimp has no relation to KDE whatsoever. So, making pictures with the gimp is neither necessary nor does it make pictures appropriate for this site.

As for KDE - Tim Brown has not made any pictures related to KDE until now. There are two that feature Tux, but they are obviously not meant to promote Linux, either. What he tries to propagate is his faith, nothing more.

This is besides the point, however. I thank the admins of this site to not censor any stuff, although this allows for religious spam as well as borderline porn as well as political propaganda. Those are negative side effects that come with freedom of speech. However, the voting system - as I understand it, again - is there so users of this site can decide what they want to see. At this moment, only one of Tim Browns wallpapers is at 50%, most of the others are under the 40% treshold, a great many of them even below 30%. Can't you take a hint?

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by thchs on: Jan 23 2004

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I must say Oxdeadbeef, you are one of the most jackass I've come across. What's your problem. Freedom of speech is only OK if it does not offend you? It's all negative side effects? Where I come from you don't say anything. You can be executed. I may not agree with this posting, but I am good to see a place where anyone can post anything they want without fear of authoritys. Come to my country and say you don't like the mosaic in the square. You will not live long.

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by 0xdeadbeef on: Jan 23 2004

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I quote myself:

I thank the admins of this site to not censor any stuff, although this allows for religious spam as well as borderline porn as well as political propaganda. Those are negative side effects that come with freedom of speech.

Freedom of speech is a good thing, but it has negative side effects just like everything else. Take a look at the Ku-Klux-Clan for example - if that's not a negative side effect, then I don't know what is.

OH GOD

by rafiki on: Jan 22 2004

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WHY OH WHY ARE YOU BACK! You were such an obnoxious twit, and then we were finally rid of you for a while, and now you're back. WHY WON'T YOU JUST GO AWAY!!!!

ey man?

by flow on: Jan 22 2004

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ever heard of TOLERANCE?

im not at all religious, but i RESPECT others work or the ARTIST themselves even if they spread the wor of a so called "GOD"

consider that

flow

draw a piece of yourself and your work will come to life.............da-flow.tk
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Re: ey man?

by slackdude on: Jan 22 2004

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BTW, welcome back flow...missed ya for a bit there. Thanks for not totally blowing this community off. (Though I can understand why you would want to... :-) )

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Re: OH GOD

by alethia on: Jan 22 2004

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you use oh God in your subject line, like you are crying out to God, but this seems to offend you. Can you explain please? You seem to contradict yourself.
You sound like a 2 year old throwing a temper tantrum. Are you 2?

Tim has as much right to post his art as you do. Deal with it! He isn't going away, so if you don't like his art; shut up and vote it down!

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Re: Re: OH GOD

by rafiki on: Jan 22 2004

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One can believe in God without subscribing to your bible-thumping bullshit.

Re: Re: Re: OH GOD

by alethia on: Jan 22 2004

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I see you are reduced to cursing. WOW! I'm so impressed with your vocabulary.
A sign of intelligence

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by flow on: Jan 22 2004

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you never change your your meanings or style BUT you are truly getting better

quality not quantity =)

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think complicated - act simple

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kde?

by daperi on: Jan 22 2004

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as i see no relevance to kde or any kind of data- or computing- connection, let me answer in an other quotation:

"... 'Walk away,' said the voice of the God in his head. 'You don't need trouble'. ..."
(Small Gods, page 96)

// but i agree: you are geeting better

// what i suggest to you: what about opening another platform for stuff like this, where you can have an own collection? then it will be on subject and related stuff --- for you

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But vision with work is the hope of the world.
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Great job

by alethia on: Jan 22 2004

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Keep it up.

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Re: Great job

by lazychris2000 on: Jan 23 2004

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good job...keep up the good work

Isn't it odd...

by Kleric on: Jan 22 2004

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...that the only person really supporting tim is alethia, and the only person really supporting alethia is tim?

I'll give that you are getting better (this doesn't scream "Amateur!" anymore) but why can't you realize that this community (in general! the majority! ) doesn't want to be preached to? If we did, or didn't really mind it, your art wouldn't start such flames!

"Just in terms of allocation of time resources, religion is not very efficient. There's a lot more I could be doing on a Sunday morning." -- Bill Gates
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Re: Isn't it odd...

by PreacherDave on: Jan 22 2004

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Isn't it odd that despite no one "really" supporting tim or alethia that their artwork gets downloaded? And isn't it odd that despite the "majority" of people disliking religion and religous artwork that tim's work doesn't imediately drop below 20% in rating?

Re: Re: Isn't it odd

by 0xdeadbeef on: Jan 23 2004

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I would not rely on download statistics. Previews are often too small to allow judgement on the picture, so people may just download the picture although they afterwards decide they don't like it,

Re: Re: Re: Isn't it odd

by PreacherDave on: Jan 23 2004

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Ok. Fair enough, even though I personally find his previews to be more than adequate in size. I've even downloaded some of them. Not all of them, as they're not all my personal taste. But some of them are. In fact, I'm currently using Tim's "Earthsphere" wallpaper. But I will say that the ratings are probably more accurate. And the fact that tim doesn't drop below the 20% deletion right as soon as he posts them counts for something in my mind.

Just because some of us don't like to go rushing headlong into a conflict doesn't mean we don't support one side.