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Kommander Project Tools

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KDE Kommander Script

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Downloads:  1839
Submitted:  Jun 10 2004
Updated:  Sep 30 2006

Description:

This is a project started by Sarah Bransdor after one of our discussions that is intended to enable Kommander to become much like a regular application. It allows for multiple dialogs and even MainWindow applications.

These tools provide a means of easily creating a project that can then be easily packaged for distribution. It also provides a consistent and functional way to install and manage projects. This is very highly recommended if you want to distribute Kommander projects as it provides a standard conventional framework using KDE conventions as best as possible.

The planned evolution of this is to include features like full KDE help documentation. Remember this tool is user editable and extensible so we look forward to contributions to improve it.




Changelog:

Version 0.5
Okay, long wait... This is a fairly complete rewrite with all Kommander scripting handled internally to reflect the new power of Kommander. It's somewhat tested but there are some known limitations. It handles simple projects without data and docs and doesn't do icons for you yet. Users wishing to contribute are very welcome. Obviously we don't have vast amounts of time.

Version 0.5rc1
the make file has been done away with and a number of revisions to scripting and dialogs have been done

Initial public release, even if it went through several revisions.




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 no install

 
 by Stornado on: Jun 10 2004
 
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I got:
sh install.sh
./setup.sh: line 4: ./../config: No such file or directory

when I try to install it

help !!


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 Re: no install

 
 by sequitur on: Jun 10 2004
 
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No kidding? Just what exactly did you think it was going to install? This could be why it has a config builder, make builder and a blank file in src/ for a payload... just maybe. ;-)

Have a look at doc/README and I hope it becomes a little more clear. As the directory it creates on extraction indicates, this is a framework for *you* to *create* a project to *distribute*, not at this time a finished project to install into the editor. If it were, we would have released it with the editor.

I hope that helps to make sense of it. The install script is to make it easy for you to distribute your files.


Eric Laffoon
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 kmdr apps like .sh

 
 by probono on: Jun 11 2004
 
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While the overall idea is good, I don't think it is implemented in the right way. A kommander "mini application" should really consist of one file, just like a shell script. No need to "install".


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 Re: kmdr apps like .sh

 
 by sequitur on: Jun 11 2004
 
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Sarah has already delivered to me a single file self installing package using makeself. My only problem with this is I want to see inside and you need to know how to just extract to do that. I'm sure many users will really love that though.

As for your point, you can run a single dialog and there you are. It's not a project. Originally I wanted to make a tgz package that could be run, or embed files and resources in one dialog. All of these ideas turn out to be less desiable that what we're working on. Look at the benefits.

  • Installing application resources in $KDEDIR/share/apps is standard for KDE applications, but we can install the whole app there as they are small.

  • We can do a menu entry.

  • We install a script in $KDEDIR/bin to execute the program.

  • To the user it looks like a single executable with resources and when it becomes possible to create MainWindows with menus and toolbars other files like XML-GUI files can go there too.

  • By putting applications in $KDEDIR/share/apps/kmdr/$APPNAME we have a common Kommander group and we can have the installer manage a list in the kmdr directory so that running kmdr-executor with no arguments defaults to producing a list from this directory to offer the user to run.


In comparison a monolithic project file you have to know where it is to execute, with no default place for data, is rather backward. Using makeself it will appear to the user like they just used an installer as easy as on Windows to install a program, assuming you opt for the self extracting option.


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 Re: Re: kmdr apps like .sh

 
 by sarahb523 on: Jun 11 2004
 
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I would say kmdr installations are esier then in windows. Also kmdr apps doesn't polute the sstem with files. Because all things are placed in a standard place and all things are logged by the installer.


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 Re: Re: kmdr apps like .sh

 
 by probono on: Jun 13 2004
 
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Hmm. Probably you are right for some bigger apps that need to store data, images, preferences and the like.

However, you should also think of "graphical shell scripts" that need to have just two kommander dialogs - for these it would be overkill to "install" them. Please address those as well.


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 right file?

 
 by mrsaccess on: Apr 6 2007
 
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Is there any problem with the file? When I extract it I get a kmdr-project-0.3 folder (shouldn't that be 0.5?) and there is nowhere the doc/README file you suggest us to read for information on how to use the script. O_O


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 :) very nice idea!

 
 by chanio on: May 18 2008
 
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I also hope that kmdr might one day, become something similar to Mozilla's xpi addons... Just one click away from any user!

I am actually trying the creation of handy interfaces that would launch my perl scripts and I am not able to understand where must this application be launched. Perhaps, directly through the Kommander Editor? Does it work like a template?

Some basic and graphical guidance of how to start and finish using this application might target to a broader number of users, as kmdr is actually intended to. Perhaps, a magazine could write an article about its use and promote it. If I could understand this, I might help writting a small introduction.


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