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Link: http:// Downloads: 412	Submitted: Nov 15 2004 Updated: Jun 3 2006
License: GPL

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thing is

by mikkoloo on: Nov 15 2004

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mikkoloo

to the guy that said "if you live in another country, care about your own"

well, sure.. thing is bush politics affects the entire world. would be wrong not to care if you do care about world peace and the security of us all. and its like not helping a girl that beeing raped, i sure as hell would help her..

i like the wallpaper, its a personal view of something and should not be removed, cause then where is the great freedom of speech?

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Re: thing is

by sequitur on: Nov 15 2004

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I agree about freedom of speech. I fully support it. That doesn't mean that all exercises of that freedom are not asinine, idiotic and in poor taste.

KDE sites are not the place to discuss politics so I won't go into a diatribe on how terribly skewed I think this is. As an American though I can say that a majority of Americans who voted this month do not share this view. Perhaps a study of history might help to understand real practitioners of genocide and tyranny and not some trendy "me too" scapegoat.

The perfect world where nobody suffers consequences does not exist. We could easily extend the absurdities to Ben and Jerry's ice cream for those who die of obesity or the medical community for bungling and killing people. How about the pharmaceutical companies? Dead is dead, right? After all what do you care about why your loved ones are dead?

My mother died of a blood clot the day after visiting a doctor who knew she was at extremely high risk for several circumstances my research shows any idiot in first year med school should know. Yet she was not prescribed an anti-coagulant. Does this doctor stand for death? It would be easy to take it personally as I miss her every day but in fact my mother should have also known her risk factors and my being angry with her doctor serves no purpose... So I got over it.

People you love will die for stupid reasons. Everyone is loved by someone. Add up the number of people who died at the hands of leaders throughout history and Bush comes in very low. For the US for example more deaths happened because of decisions by FDR, Eisenhour, Truman, JFK, Johnson, Nixon and Bush Sr. Truman was the only world leader to ever use nuclear weapons. As horrible as that was historians estimate it saved millions of lives on both sides ending WWII. None of these American presidents have had people lined up, mass murdered and put in mass graves. Other leaders do not come off so well, like Joe Stalin who killed 30 million of his own people because he was paranoid. Too bad it's not as trendy to focus on genocidal maniacs as the popularly elected leader of the country that started a domino effect in self government. At least we can be grateful many despots and their regimes have been removed from power, in many cases by resolute American presidents, leaving less who truly stand for death.

Eric Laffoon
kdewebdev (Quanta/Kommander) project lead
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Re: Re: thing is

by elektroschock on: Nov 15 2004

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elektroschoc k

It is intresting to see how an awful picture creates some useful discussion.

Anyway Eric, the times of The great mass murders(tm) are gone. And there is no excuse for today's mistakes by the deadly policy of the past.

Your president made huge mistakes in foreign policy that are not that much overseen at home. They reduced the moral credibility of your nation. Propaganda of this worst kind is totally inappropriate anyway and I don't want to get used to it. I don't want to see the leading nation of the western hemisphere depicted like this. I don't like anti-bush bashing despite my respect for freedom of speech.

I do not want to take over his job because you have to make decisions on life and death. And when the American democracy approves this policy the American people are responsible for what happens today not the person elected.

Hope Quanta will not ever kill :-)

In a democracy you are responsible for what your representative does in your name. So don't blame him.

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Free Open People

by aunzim on: Nov 15 2004

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aunzim

before i saw the wallpaper i thougth in the same word... who should be removed is not only bush but also the multinational evils who support death economy

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well

by Superstoned on: Nov 15 2004

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Superstoned

if you could enhance the pic a bit more, like make the skull fit a bit better (the skull looks to the left, bush to the right, isnt it?)

I'd love it..

:D

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Re: well

by VeeDubb on: Nov 16 2004

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VeeDubb

Hate the mesage, but i agree artistiacly. It looks like this was made by simply superimposing a couple of layers in GIMP or some similar program. I think it would be much more effective if you flipped the skull (or Bush, doesn't matter) about the vertical axis so they are looking the same way, and then line them up. Of course, then you might have to reduce transparency of the faces just a tad to bring them up through that murky red foreground, but i think overall, it would improve it's effectiveness greatly.

"It's not the end of the world, but you can f***ing see it from there!" -Robin Williams
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hmm

by MMax on: Nov 15 2004

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MMax

I believe that US is a long time not anymore the promised land of dreams. Not because of the people but because of the US goverment.

You peolple should see movies: Bowling For Columbine and Fahrenheit 9/11. Those who didn't see them yet, go see them and the argument!

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Re: hmm

by gg3po on: Nov 16 2004

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gg3po

Actually, I tend to feel the problem for both Americans, and Europeans alike, is the fact that they watch too many movies and don't read enough books (preferably of the non-fiction variety) :-)

-3po
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Re: hmm

by VeeDubb on: Nov 16 2004

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VeeDubb

Regardless of whether or not you agree with Michael Moore, there is absolutely nothing of substantive value in either of those documentaries. They are works of fantasy and pure propoganda. While I agree with some of the things he believes, the man is an idiot.

Telling a person to go see Farenhiet 911 is about as usefull as telling them to whatch the anti moore propaganda film FarenHYPE 911. Both are worthless pieces of sophomoric drivel.

"It's not the end of the world, but you can f***ing see it from there!" -Robin Williams
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free speach

by VeeDubb on: Nov 16 2004

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VeeDubb

First I must say that no person with a good working knowledge of history could believe in the idea this picture promotes, and i voted for Bush. Actualy it would be more accurite to say I voted 'against' Kerry, but that's a whole other topic.

All that being said, I think it's insane and wrong to censor this. The key to a free society is that we must defend that which we find most heinous.

To believe in free speach is to defend the right of another, to preach at the top of their lungs, that which you would spend your whole life preaching against at the top of your lungs. Only then is there freedom. (paraphased, Michael Douglas in "The Amercian President.")

"It's not the end of the world, but you can f***ing see it from there!" -Robin Williams
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