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Make KDE truly language independent

  

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One thing KDE completely lacks is translations in some areas. The most important, I think, kioslaves.
Why file://, home:// or settings:// ?
Is a non-english newbie supposed to know what "settings" means ?
I think Windows has solved this problem pretty well ( see "My Computer" in address bar, or "Start" button ).
There should be "fixed" names (ie: http, ftp, ... ) and translatable ones.


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I know due to unix structure, some directories will remain the same ( /home, /dev, etc ) but couldn't konqueror at least fake "Desktop" folder in /home/ and show a translated label ?
I think a ".i18n" file inside of a folder could help.




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 by Ekardnam on: Mar 5 2006  
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>> I know due to unix structure, some directories will remain the same ( /home, /dev, etc ) but couldn't konqueror at least fake "Desktop" folder in /home/ and show a translated label ?
I think a ".i18n" file inside of a folder could help.

WHat do you mean with "fake"? You can set the path to the desktop somewhere in the control center, so it should be impossible to replace "~/Desktop" with "~/somethingelse", right?


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 Re: Desktop

 
 by Larra on: Mar 5 2006  
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Yes, but "Desktop" is too standarized, and could lead to confussion with other D.E. :/


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 It's not very simple

 
 by dragospop on: Mar 5 2006  
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In my opinion it could only be done using a virtual file sistem or otherwise what would happen when I change the language?
The second thing: the user should be able to use both his language or standard english, or a specialist would get confused (If settings:// would not work for example because it's in another language).


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 OSX Does it

 
 by ra1n on: Mar 5 2006  
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in a very simple manner, using an hidden .localized file reading that file finder shows Desktop Documents Images etc etc folder localized in the user language.
I don't think that is an effective way of working, it spreads confusions, since if you open a terminal you still see directory names in the original language, better stick with english and use simple words for folders and kioslaves


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 Not that a good idea

 
 by keba on: Mar 5 2006  
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Actually, translating folder names like "Desktop" or "Documents" ist a very good idea, but please do not translate kioslaves.
If I work on a system in German at home and a friend has one in french, for example, I would have quite a lot of problems helping him...
That's just what translating bash commands would be like. kioslaves have to be universal. Imagine "cp" called "kp" in German or "qw" in xyz. That would be a mess...


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 Re: Not that a good

 
 by keba on: Mar 5 2006  
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At least the english "universal" ones would have to work on every system.


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 Re: Not that a good

 
 by profoX on: Mar 6 2006  
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very big mess :)

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 translation

 
 by paralis on: Mar 6 2006  
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On Windows, the 'Start' button and 'My Documents' folder are translated in most non-english countries. Most of the menu is as well : Desktop, Settings, Admin tools, Control Panel, Accessories, etc.

However, just like unix, system strucure is not translated so non-english people have no idea what is the purpose of 'Program Files' or 'Documents and Settings'...

I guess it's a problem all existing OS must rethink.


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 Re: translation

 
 by janosdre on: Mar 9 2006  
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The system structure should not be translated. Having a unified naming scheme across all languages is actuall a benefit for IT professionals and experts.

For the rest a translation file would be the best solution. For example, it could define that the "Desktop" should be called "Asztal" in Hungarian. If someone prefers to use the local language, then the programs should be able to translate even filenames and system folders.

Of course, methods of viewing and editing of the actual filenames must be retained. For example through a terminal.


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