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Fullscreen KMenu

  

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Fullscreen KMenu
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Downloads:  231
Submitted:  Feb 8 2006
Updated:  Feb 12 2006

Description:

Wouldn't it be cool if you are able to push tab-key once and KMenu would appear as a full screen menu in OSD style?

It would show at least 10 or more last used program icons and smooth scrollable KMenu with endless circulation of the menu items. It would also show you some basic information of the programs such as Name, Purpose, Times run, Version number, Maker... and so on.

When you press tab it would make menu appear in empty desktop as it will fade away icons, panels, programs running and so on. Now if you just thought about Apple's Exposé from OSX you are in right tracks. It's just about that this function doesn't organize kwindows of running applications but shows KMenu in a smart and good looking way. Both Exposé and this function have lots of similar things but also lots of differences so do not mix this with Exposé as it is not the program function I am driving behind here.

So what do you think about this? Wouldn't fullscreen KMenu would be something extremely kool with big K? :)

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About descriptive pictures:

- Sorry for being lazy and not adding lots of icons or so there.

- I scaled size of the pictures down so some things are not large enought or some are too small.

Some descriptive function propherties:

- Smoothscroll and fades in both ends of menu and maybe in future composite engine allows fast and pretty transparent and shadowed menus.

- Main thing here is that its like a wheel menu. When you more your mouse top of the menu it starts to roll menu items upwards in a endless circle. Or if you move your mouse bottom of the menu it starts scrolling items backwards. This would keep menu cleaner for better menu browsing experience.

-Head panel acts as quick start panel used for most used menu items.

Status of the function:

- Somebody thought my idea as a pretty good one couple days ago in forum. I want to thank you. I wouldn't have made a consept pictures and do some brain storming just to upload this here otherwise. I'll make this look like something real nice and working function for KDE4 and I really hope that new KMenu will at least introduce that menu circuation feature as I am sick of menus getting messed in such way that my whole screen is covered by menu items.

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Feel free to comment my idea.




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 yes

 
 by ra1n on: Feb 8 2006  
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yes, why the menu must be tied to panels, it can just appear fullscreen like dashboard or in a floating, semi-trasparent widget on top of everything (still looking at apple like their alt-tab or osd) called by a keystroke or a button, or a mouse gesture


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 Re: yes

 
 by AnXa on: Feb 8 2006  
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It's called Exposé. There are couple of kind of programs for Linux to provide same kind of functionality.

Search for Komposé or Skippy, or if you are Gnome user then Expocity.

I am using Komposé but skippy is installed and it looks somewhat better. Skippy is not as usable as Komposé. Komposé provides lots of more functionality.


I am kind of man allways to have problems with big menus, this arragment would allow searching menu items fast and easy with your mouse. It also looks great incase effects are used. I am not sure if people know about gtk feature that you start writing while being in a list of something and then it will parse content by those key words. I'll add that feature later to my screenshots.

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 Re: Re: yes

 
 by ra1n on: Feb 9 2006  
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I know what exposè is, since I'm also a MAC user :-)
But it's a different thing, exposè manages windows, not applications launch.
Here it's a proposal to make the application menu something like and OSD (On Screen Display) displayed by a keystroke or a button

And yes, I've tried expose clones and they are quite crappy, let's wait for Xgl instead


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 Re: Re: Re: yes

 
 by AnXa on: Feb 10 2006  
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Yeah, you got my idea right way. Yes I understood wrong your post. I thought that you don't know what exposé is, sorry about that. :)

And yeah, I know what exposé does. Like I wrote in my description: "Exposé but for K-menu content instead of windows. Theoraticly same functionaly."

That is really bad english from me. I'll fix my description when I update my mockup.

oh well... Exposé clones aren't crappy. They are not as visually stunning but work most of the time like a dream.

On Sceen Display... Well, I guess you can call it like that too. :D

Do you have any suggestions to how this works? Better idea for a layout, for example?

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 Re: Re: Re: Re: yes

 
 by ra1n on: Feb 12 2006  
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well my idea it's simple, show the menu as an osd (take the Apple-tab layout for reference graphic) in fullscreen with most used applications on top (four or five) and categories following (internet media, etc etc) when you click on a category it expands showing applications, if you click again it closes
I've a specific design in my mind of this(for example the osd will be rectangular, so the expanding effect will go start from a corner of the selected icon going to the opposite up/down corner basing on it's position) maybe I'll post some mockup later


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 First one

 
 by Keepers on: Feb 12 2006  
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I like the idea of your first picture!
Would be really something new than having always those arrows!


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 Re: First one

 
 by AnXa on: Feb 12 2006  
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Great! Nice to hear that you like it. To be honest I was going to leave it like this but I might do some updates in next week too.

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 like in Windows?

 
 by janet on: Feb 12 2006  
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> smooth scrollable KMenu with endless circulation of the menu items That sounds as horrible as the windows menu's look'n'feel is with its scolling - or did I misunderstood? To me it is important to see all menu entries without any scrolling.

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 Re: like in Windows?

 
 by AnXa on: Feb 13 2006  
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NO! This is not like in MS Windows, You are in mispath. Like I said, think more Exposé for program menu items instead of program windows.

Windows has some kind of menu scroll also but its stypid desing makes it bad.


Well, how the heck I am going to explain this...

...I need to update my description for this...

..And make an animated picture.

Well then, Think a wheel. This wheel has lockers in it. Those lockers in wheel can be browsed up and down in both directions. When the top locker is reached it starts from the bottom. This circulation of lockers is nedless. There can allways be added more lockers to wheel and it grows in size but is allways in good organization since the lockers them selfs won't move. Only the wheel moves.

Now here. We have item1, item2 and item3. In that wheel. You use your mouse scroll button to go this wheel up and down to browse between items. When you have item2 and item3 in screen you cannot see item1 but you push your mouse and when item3 goes away item1 comes to visible.

Of couse this is really bad explanation but gives the idea.

You can allways see at least the 2/3 menu items on your screen. And with small effors things won't start looking like this: http://www.edu.lahti.fi/~aaspinen/kuvat/tyopydat/kde0.jpg

Current KDE menu with big icons and big fonts and lots of programs in it may use 2/3 or 3/3 of you screen size.

(SuSe uses 2/3 at default, Redhat may vary but generally 2/3, Mandrake uses their own fix)

This idea limits it to 1/2 at all times. It's fast and very efficiant way to manage and browse your menu items.

Plus in case you have monitor which is only capable of lower resolutions such as 800x600 mode and 1024x768 which are acctually still most used video modes today among with the 1280x1024, it is important to have menu which is also efficiant with used space.

Also one big thing here. When we have a menu which is not appearing in a "work desktop" but racher in "menu desktop" it makes some sense that you can have better information about the programs you are using, better ways of getting help for them and lots different of ways to arrange you menu.

This menu represents ½ the Backwards falling type of menus and ½ of Forward expanding menu types. Both have bad and good sides, this takes the both good sides of them.

Apple uses forward expanding type of menus like older versions of windows also from xp to 95. Windows vista among with couple other operating system use more rare Backwards falling menu type. I think its stypid sollution but works for lots of menu items which makes it superrior over forward expanding menus.

Don't you think so? In case you still have something to ask if you didn't understood I am happy to help and talk about this.

I know that my "example pictures" are quite messy but what should I do then? I am not a good graphics artist but I know a lots of ways to edit pictures and at least I tried my best to explain this feature.

I hope you understood. Thanks for showing interest. :)

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 Let me add..

 
 by AnXa on: Feb 14 2006  
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Let me add that in this idea menu categories are expanding not the acctual program folders. It's not full expanding and only most important and most used stuff is up immiedly in the wheel of program items.

That's why it's something between the outward and inward menu expanding. It expands to both diredtions.

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