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Mosfet and Red Hat
Jan 1 2003  on news New Liquid

Hey Mosfet,

After reading your rationale for not supporting Red Hat and a post you made (see a few posts up), I'd like to point some things out.

"You download what you want to use. This doesn't mean we don't look at each other's projects and learn things, *that* is the main advantage of open source...It's called "choice"." --by you.

Choice, eh? So it's Red Hat's choice to make KDE and Gnome what it wants to, in order to provide a unified environment for people who *choose* to use their distribution. I'm struggling to find the harm in that.

You seem pretty upset that Red Hat *crippled* KDE. Funny, I wasn't aware that the KDE project in its entirety was solely influenced by Red Hat's version of it. Does this mean my Mandrake version of KDE is now crippled? Or my Suse? Of course not. The KDE project is alive and well, independent of *one company's interpretation* of it.

It all goes back to that choice thing, doesn't it? But to choose not to support specific distributions in your products because of idealogical differences is only alienating your users from your work...you know, that work for which you get nothing in return.

To state that you're "quitting" the Linux community because of Red Hat, or any company, is a cop-out. Maybe you're quitting because you haven't figured out that hard work deserves to be paid for. You could have charged for builds of your programs; instead you're developing for Windows.


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RH8, etc
Jan 1 2003  on news alive and angry

Granted, I'm not a Linux guru, but I'm not exactly a newbie either. That being said, I too must wonder what all the fuss is about with RH8 "breaking" KDE. RH8 is the first distro I've actually been quite pleased with (and yes, I've used several, to include Mandrake, Suse, etc). Yes, RH did make modifications to integrate KDE and Gnome--and we should all be glad they did. It's funny to me how many Linux users hate Microsoft--and yet watch the snobbish attitudes fly when you suggest that Linux be made easier for new users. Hate to break it to everyone, but not everybody is a computer geek, and not everybody wants to be. That's why Microsoft has the power it does today--dumbing down to the lowest common denominator. Sick of Microsoft's influence and control over the software market? Tired of one company conducting the fate of future software trends/technology? Then watch that attitude the next time someone advocates gearing Linux towards the true desktop...the desktop of the everyday Joe-Shmoe. Linux is making great strides towards this end--with the help of companies like Red Hat who are trying to standardize the environment. And yes, RH IS a company, so why are people bitching about how evil they are? Companies push products, which makes products known widely, which will make Linux more familiar. If this isn't a good thing, then don't complain about Microsoft or the "dumb Windows user". If you want Linux to remain exclusively for geeks, then it's a hobby, not an alternative. As for Mosfet (who, by the way, is now developing for Windows), he sounds like a complete hypocrite: he must pay the bills and feels he's gotten nothing in return for his efforts--and yet he's given away his work for free and criticizes companies for making something their own.

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