| ![-](/img/trans.gif) | | communism rulez! Jun 25 2004 on content CHE: Champion of Man | Apparantly our capitalist friends have given up to fight over kde-look.org - all I can see is thi absurd George Bush (which probabyl even is ment as a joke). Shoudln't we make a unified theme collection of all the communist backgrounds (so one can rotate them) and the splash screen(s)?
Also, has anyone thought about making sound themes using the international or Societ anthomny for startup and shutdown? |
| ![.](/img/trans.gif) | | cool! Jun 23 2004 on content got nukes? | really cool!
as I know you, you don't try to support North Korea here... yes to Lenin but no to Stalin and North Korea, right?
I was thinking of making a splash screen with the heads of Marx, Engels, Lenin, Luxemburg and Liebknecht. And maybe exchange Lenin with Bakunin, although his critique of Marx is pretty immature... but I just don't have th time right now. Maybe in the next weeks. What do you think? Does anyone have cool pictures?
(for those that don't know some of the above people, check:
http://www.marxists.org/archive/
and for Bakunin:
http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/anarchist_archives/bakunin/Bakuninarchive.html
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| ![.](/img/trans.gif) | | Re: pride? Jun 12 2004 on content Soviet Arizona | well, true enough...
...but: this flag combines the state flag of Arizona with the symbols used by the Societ Union. I can not quite see how this is glorifying either Arizona or the Soviet union as Arizona never was a part of the Societ Union nor was the Soviet Union ever part of Arizona. It is exactly this mix that shows that there is nothing nationalistic that prevents Arizona from being socialistic. |
| ![.](/img/trans.gif) | | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Jun 7 2004 on content Soviet Arizona | Sorry man, but you have reached the state where you're making up facts. I won't discuss this any further. |
| ![.](/img/trans.gif) | | Re: Re: Re: Re: a fe Jun 7 2004 on content Soviet Arizona | exploited? well if you are Danish you certainly have been: with the deal the government made with them in December, Maersk will keep control of 80-90% of Danish oil in the next 39 years.
In 2001, the Danish taxation ministry came up with a report showing that one could get 6.9 billion extra Danish crowns for that year if one had taxation equivalent to toher countries. Instead, the government's deal, they get 2.3 billion extra. That means they are already there giving Maersk 4 billion Danish crowns. These have to be paid for by the Danish taxpayer. Of course, one could also have all the oil in the hand of the state and all the oil money could go into building up infrastructure and finance social welfare programs.
And the stuff about jobs: jobs aren't really all that great. If we can get the same work done in shorter time, we can shorten the working day and h=ave more time for doing cool stuff.
And by the way, what are those problems in Scandinavia, that you don't really want to specify? I think you are just some right-winger that really has no clue of how bad people have it in countries that follow the policies that they are advocating. |
| ![.](/img/trans.gif) | | Re: Re: a few clarif Jun 7 2004 on content Soviet Arizona | sorry man, but amongst other things I am also a Danish citizen having lived in Oslo, Norway for a bunch of years. And yes, the standard of living IS simple the highest available on this planet currently for a mass population.
The problems that one does have like anti neo-facism in Denmark (the Danish People's Party) and Neonazis in Sweden a couple of years ago are not really related to any real economic problems that people have as a result of too high taxes
Try living in some fo the poorer areas of Arizona for example: no health care, mediocre education standards, and all the young kids that are being recruited to the military as cannon food as they don't have any other hope for themselfs.
But of course, Scandinavia is not socialism - there are still big capitalists like Maersk and Roekke thta exploit people around the world. It's just as close to socialism as any modern country has come recently. |
| ![.](/img/trans.gif) | | Re: also... Jun 7 2004 on content Soviet Arizona | yes, it was yours that inspired us to do this! You're our Lenin, dude! |
| ![.](/img/trans.gif) | | Re: Re: Re: Why? Jun 7 2004 on content Soviet Arizona | Ok, first of all, if you've read the capital, you'll know that one of the basic qualities of the freeing of the working class is that it is their own work and that it is supposed to stop alienation from the products one creates. That has nothing to do with letting a state or a party take over the role of the working class and take control of the means of production. Whether I am controlled by a capitalist in New York or a Bureaucrat in Mopscow does not make a whole lot of difference in terms of alienation.
In terms of oppression, as I tried to say before, you can not just count Americans and how they are treated by the US (although also many American have been persecuted over times). Instead, you have to look at ALL people that are in contact with the US state together.; it is not better for the US government to oppress someone who doesn't hold an American passport than to oppress a US citizen.
In matters of education: yes, I agree, it should be a revolution by the great majority (that could profit from a change of system) against a small minority of capitalists. And that is what one needs eductaion for. One of the means of doing that is to post wallpapers here and then start discussions with that. Another way is to send lots of communists to the US and sit around the libraries in all the small towns to discuss with the local high school students. |
| ![.](/img/trans.gif) | | Re: Why? Jun 6 2004 on content Soviet Arizona | sorry man, but the US is not much better. Yes, the USSR was a dictatorship, but what is the US now then with a nonelected President?
Also, I can post this not because my country has "freedom of speech", but because it has it for _some_ (which includes me) but not for others... like dissenting people in Iraq.
Think of the millions of people that were killed by the US in Vietnam, the overthrow of a socialist-like democracy in Chile in order to hand it to Pinochet...
Just because the Soviet Union misused the name "communism"/"socialism", there is just no other solution than real socialism/communism to the problem of the military-industrial complex under capitalism. |
| ![.](/img/trans.gif) | | Re: BAD Jun 6 2004 on content Soviet Arizona | what do others think? Should we have a strong colored and a faded version? |
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