| Re: A few questions
Dec 11 2003 on content "Fearfully Made" |
That's not entirely fair. There is no reason to call into question his past here. If he thinks that his religion has helped him become a better person, than let's just leave it at that. |
|  | | Re: Query the masses
Dec 10 2003 on content "Fearfully Made" |
I believe in god (mine looks mostly like the Jewish/Christian/Muslim one) but I don't practice an organized religion. |
| | | Re: Re: Re: It's amazing
Dec 10 2003 on content "Fearfully Made" |
Tolerance does not mean believing all viewpoints to be equally valid. Rather, tolerance is a belief that living together in harmony takes precedence over other beliefs that may be in conflict. Thus, it is not fundamentally different from other belief systems, it just has different priorities.
Consider: In the United States, we have freedom of religion. There is an inherent contradiction in that idea, for evangelical religions like Christianity and Islam anyway. In an evangelical religion, you are supposed to convert (it has been watered down over the ages) those who do not believe. However, that works against the idea of diverse people living together in harmony, as history has shown us. To resolve this conflict, the founding fathers essentially asserted that the principle of harmony (the freedom) takes precedence over religion. Thus, you can practice whatever religion you want, as long as you do not infringe on the freedoms of others --- religion is secondary to freedom.
Now, you can see why it is not a contradiction for a tolerant person to disagree with others. Tolerance simply means putting the principle of harmony above certain other principles. It does not mean putting that principle above all else. For example, in the United States, we are not tolerant of murderers. Why? Because our principle of tolerance is secondary to our belief in the sanctity of human life.
This comes back to why supposedly tolerant people are intolerant of organizations like faith2action. People like those attack beliefs that this country holds even more highly than tolerance, namely freedom and equality. In this way, tolerant people are no different, in principle, than radical Islamists who preach hatred against the infidels. Rather, tolerant people are merely willing to put up with a larger number of differences in the interest of harmony. |
| | | Re: Re: Hm
Dec 10 2003 on content "Fearfully Made" |
The point is that they're bad people. |
| | | Re: Re: Re: Re: What
Nov 21 2003 on content Fellowship of the Unashamed |
Your logic is faulty. A stereotype is something applied generally to an entire group of people. Unless you're willing to say that "muslims are (mostly) bad people" then the stereotype is not true. By your own admission, you say that your post may be propogating this stereotype. Since this stereotype is not true, you are propogating a lie.
There are bad people in every religion. Christianity has more than its share of evils done in its name. There is no point in attributing these evils to good people, which is what your poem does. |
| | | Re: How "tolerant...
Nov 21 2003 on content Fellowship of the Unashamed |
Its not the prejudice in the wallpaper, its the prejudice expressed in the story and the subsequent post.
For the record, I think people who flame him right off the bat are wrong. He has every right to post these, though, maybe we need catagories like other theme sites so people can ignore them. |
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Nov 21 2003 on content Fellowship of the Unashamed |
I'm not offended. I'm just saddened that someone, who until now was displaying a perfectly healthy enthusiasm for his faith has degenerated to now attacking people who don't agree with him. |
| | | Re: Re: This is so weird
Nov 21 2003 on content Fellowship of the Unashamed |
Africa is not a predominatly Muslim continent. The heavily populated countries of North Africa are mostly Muslim, but the rest of Africa is much less so. Overall, the Christian population of Africa is in the high 300 millions, while the Muslim population is in the low 400 millions. |
| | | Re: Re: This is so weird
Nov 21 2003 on content Fellowship of the Unashamed |
Are you joking? Its well-known the level to which missionaries forced Christianity upon Africans and Native Americans. In fact, there is a literary movement within Africa right now that is resentful of the missionaries and the changes the forced upon African culture. |
| | | Re: Re: Re: This is so w
Nov 21 2003 on content Fellowship of the Unashamed |
Okay, now you're crossing the line. I have no problem with you enjoying your faith and trying to share it with other similarly minded people. However, you're getting into a level of evangelism that is simply not appropriate for this site. Practice your faith, but refrain from criticizing those who don't.
I used to be irritated to see people pointlessly flaming you for posting positive messages like you do, but you are starting to make me believe that you are no better than them. |
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