| Re: Re: Meaningless
Sep 25 2003 on content Pleiades Bound, Orion Loosed |
While I may not share your beliefs, by all means keep on putting wallpapers here. I always enjoy a good discussion about religion and the bible. Although I find that the discussion quickly breaks down due to the lack of common ground between the two debating parties, I like to think that I argue my points logically and at the very least help my "opponent" refine his while he does the same for me.
In your reply you state that Job must have know about both "bound and unbound" in order to make his prediction. My point about the terms not being technical but being used technically is that it is forseable for an untrained indivdual to use those very words without any knowledge of their technical meaning. I can easily see myself call a large, spread-out group of stars unbound and close knit group bound without any knowledge of the technical use of the terms. This gets enven murkier when you consider the effect of translation. Although the use of direct translation from hebrew helps your case, a large number of linguists would argue that social context is very important in determining the proper translation of a word and todays society is very much different than that of old. |
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Sep 24 2003 on content Pleiades Bound, Orion Loosed |
Hey tim,
I'll take your word about what the bible says and the fact that nasa uses the same terminology but lets think about the "implications" as you say.
A cluster can be bound or not. Give me any random cluster and I have 50% (assuming an equal distribution) chance of guessing corrrectly if it is bound or not. If you have to get two right your probability goes down to 25% (now regardless of the distribution, ain't probability grand). Still within the realm of a lucky guess. But lets also add the fact that the stars in the pleiades look much closer together in the sky than the ones in orion. So essentially all you have is someone who took a lucky (25%) educated (pleaides look closer together) guess and got it right. Hardly reason to infer divine intervention.
As to the assertion that bound and loose are technical terms.... They may be used in a technical sense but are hardly technical. Globular cluster, open cluster are technical terms and I have yet to see those in the bible.
Harpalus |
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