| Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: why ?
Mar 27 2006 on content Konqueror for a New Experience |
I see two solutions:
1) Use the left sidebar "Local" and click in "my Home". But of course there are many users who don't like a left sidebar, so they have it hidden.
Yep. We should assume that it's not always shown I think.
2) Then there is other way: when a new empty tab is open the specific bar will not be empty, it could show two button: "my Home" and "home page", so the user could access quickly to his files or to his default web page.
Humm, I think that might actually work! I can literaly see it: A blank page and you really only got "Home" and "Homepage" in the middle of the specific bar, nothing else. Yes, I think it might work. |
|  | | Re: Re: do it yourself
Mar 27 2006 on content Konqueror for a New Experience |
You know nothing about me. I don't like Gnome or Windows, sorry, I like KDE. But if you think that KDE is perfect as now is your problem. Anyway I think you never will propose nothing, just criticize with bad words ideas of others (like anyone can read in all your responses in KDE-look).
ibc, you have my deepest respect now. Honestly i would not have reacted in such a constructive way to such a rude comment. The wording nnn used here is worse than bad, but the link to his other comments was actually quite funny, thanks for that =) |
| | | Re: Re: Noisy and cluttered
Mar 27 2006 on content Konqueror for a New Experience |
I think a good place to discuss it would be the kde-usability list.
it's really hard to track all the various topics in these comments here on kde-look.org, so a better plae for discussion might be a good idea.
Note that I'm not a usability professional or something like that, so I'm not 100% sure kde-usability would be the best place, but I think so. |
| | | Re: Re: Re: why ?
Mar 26 2006 on content Konqueror for a New Experience |
Yeah I know that "Home" can be a confusing term for an application that is both a file- as well as a web-browser. But Still "home" (/home/user) is the place users focus their file management needs on in Unix, so it should be there although I see the problem you show here.
I was about to explain why I feel that it belongs among the other navigational buttons and *not* on the specific toolbar - I had a look at the mockup just now... and there it is already (you're quick ;)). I think it's not that bad there. Still I think a _blank_ konqueror window (no specific toolbar there yet) should have the option to be turned into a file management konqueror starting at /home/user by the click of a mouse button.
filesystem sidebar element
What i meant here was a view of the sidebar that does not start at "home", but at "/" (root). The thing you get in konqueror today when you open the "rootfolder" sidebar - just a flat view of your whole unix filesystem.
This is a pretty minor detail though concerning the overall design. You put a great deal of thought into this whole thing and I really hope we will be seeing this discussed on kde-usability at some point and maybe even have coders working towards it.
What I really like here is that you try hard (and succeed imo) to present a simple and clean interface to the user while not butchering Konqueror into a simplistic file starter like finder or nautilus. |
| | | Re: why ?
Mar 26 2006 on content Konqueror for a New Experience |
Erm well. hard to reply to a comment written in such a pissed mood.
Anyway while the author sure could have mentioned your mockup here on KDE-Look in the first place, you could really have had a look at his well done explanations and immediately see that he DID mention your mockup...
Everything you're saying here is that "he should keep it simple", which is exactly what he's trying to do and explains well on the info page.
developing a new interface for Konqueror is a very tough task in my opinion. This is not finder. Most of current KDe users would be pretty annoyed and would leave in the end if you'd turn this powerfull local and remote file manager into something like finder. The art here is to hide the imensely powerful interface from the user at first. If he is in the need of more functionality to actually *work* * with files he should be able to unhide this additional power easily.
I think the mockup discussed here does this pretty well in some places.
* Yes, I think there actually are people who work with files. A file manager/browser isn't only used to get from A to B on a file system. The easiest example here is administration, which some people do for a living. This doesn't need to be Konqueror default interface, but it really has to be enabled easily.
If you'd actually be a bit more concrete and tell us what you think is "too much" this might actually turn into a useful comment.
Concerning the actual mockup I think it's pretty good. I do miss a "home" button among the navigation buttons though. There's none in local browsing mode although ~ is the place a user should be able to reach quickly if he "gets lost" or wants to start something new.
The sidebars could be a bit more tidy as well. I like the interface they have from the "original mockup" better. And theres not filesystem sidebar element.
The idea with a clickable location bar might be too much. Better have a bar that's copy and pasteable, meaning that it's obvious for a user that he *could* enter a completely new location manually here. |
| | | Great app, ...
Aug 15 2005 on content Amarok |
... but I can't resist to state that the screenshots as presented here make amaroK look worse than it actually is.
They are seemingly done in fullscreen and even on a 1280x1024 screen (which I assume is the resolution of the screenshots) I have to scroll to see everything.
It's just that I assume most people wouldn't ever want a music player that *has* to be used in a fullscreen mode. Normal operation for most music players and what most people expect or like seems to be a rather small window - maybe 1/4 of the whole screen.
The shots make amaroK look like it's not usable in such a way. Which I think isn't good at all.
Cheers :o) |
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