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What do you think about KDE3?

Posted by on Apr 12 2002

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Much better than KDE2	57%
Better than KDE2	33%
The same than KDE2	6%
Worse than KDE2	1%
The worst	2%

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It's good...

by ian on: Apr 12 2002

Score 50%

ian
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... but it could be better. Much better!

We do need more speedups. (Just like the "superfast kde3 bootup" etc.)
We don't need more eyecandy. We need BETTER (high-quality) eyecandy. (Crystalstyle/Icons etc.)
We do need a better working community!

Are you with me? :)

ian

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No, I am not with you...

by silcndrgn on: Apr 12 2002

Score 50%

silcndrgn

It's great, and it is much better.

Really. What the hell are you talking about? KDE3 is faster (did you even try object prelinking!?!). Also, it doesn't just have more eye-candy, it had higher quality eye-candy. Haven't you taken a look at some of the new theme work? Keramik? Hello!? And as for better working community, this is a gigantic load of bullshit. Little assholes like you who don't code or contribute anything haven't the slightest clue exactly how fantastic the KDE development community is. I would say that the only open source project that rivals it is the Linux kernel project. KDE coders produce such fine work and have such well coordinated releases. Much nicer than anything else we see in the open source and especially the corporate world.

No, I am not with you and I hope everyone disagrees with your nonsense. You haven't a clue of what you're talking about and you need to shut up or get your facts straight.

I hate little twerps like you who just try to make comments about where a project needs to go to sound like you're insightful or some crap like that. All the stuff the KDE project needs to get better are things you're clearly oblivious to as it is.

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You didn't get the point...

by ian on: Apr 12 2002

Score 50%

ian
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...why are you feeling so p*ssed off? I already contributed to KDE. Perhaps you should have had a look at http://www.kdelook.org/usermanager/search.php?username=ian before calling me a "little asshole". Calm down!

KDE3 is not "fast"! fvwm etc. are fast. KDE3 is slightly faster that KDE2, ok. But there is a lot more to do.

And by saying that the community doesn't work well I mean stuff like contacting KDE people two or three times making suggestions etc. without getting a response.

Calm down and don't get me wrong.

ian

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I will have to laugh...

by aergern on: Apr 13 2002

Score 50%

aergern
n/a
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..at you because all you've succeeded in doing is using a bunch of profane words and bitch a lot about his "non-contribution" to the community. This guy has given us 2 of the best looking bootup screens on this site. You should rethinking yourself and quite being such a child. If you want to act like a child go join an alt. newsgroup and respond to every post "RTFM" because you certainly have no place here.

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Thanks!

by ian on: Apr 13 2002

Score 50%

ian
Home

:)

I will keep up the work!

ian

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yikes

by tvon on: Apr 14 2002

Score 50%

tvon
Etria
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Please, please calm down. Your going to give yourself a heart attack.

-Tom "if I can save just one life" von Schwerdtner

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about objprelink

by del on: Apr 16 2002

Score 50%

del

You suggest trying object prelinking, but this is NOT a universal solution, and does not work on all platforms and combinations of gcc/binutils. I've been unable to use this solution myself, with the result that non-prelinked KDE3 on my higher-spec new machine is slower than pre-linked KDE2 on my crappy old system. This, IMHO, is a problem - unfortunately I think it's due to GCC C++ linking issues. Having said all that, performance issues aside, KDE3 is superb.

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ARTS is broken again

by gvs on: Apr 12 2002

Score 50%

gvs
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ARTS is not working on SuSE 7.3. This seems to be a recurring update problem (it was broken in 2.2 first too).

Maybe KDE should drop ARTS, I've had more problems with it than any benefits...

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It works for me...

by ian on: Apr 12 2002

Score 50%

ian
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...on SuSE 7.3.

ian

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I'd have to 2nd this!

by aergern on: Apr 13 2002

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aergern
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Works for me on 7.2 and 7.3

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sound probs in SUSE 7.3

by jadrian on: Apr 13 2002

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jadrian

Hi!
I installed kde3.0 in 2 computers with SuSE 7.3.
I downloaded SuSE rpms a cpuple of minutes after they were released and installed in the 1st computer. In the 2nd computer I downloaded the rpms again, they were different from the fisrt ones... new aRts verison etc.

My 1st computer as problems with noatun and kaboddle, the 2nd one works fine. Though that might help.

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Known Problem...

by ian on: Apr 13 2002

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ian
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... I had this problem too. But as you already said the new RPM work properly.

ian

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Thanks

by Syllten on: Apr 27 2002

Score 50%

Syllten
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Thanks! I thought i was stucked with XMMS! (SuSE 7.3)

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??

by fgalli on: Apr 25 2002

Score 50%

fgalli
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I have SuSE 7.3 on 4 computers, included an iMac and a Cube. Arts works on all of them.

I installed SuSE 7.3 on some random laptops of some friends, and arts was working in all cases.

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re: arts on SuSE

by tminos on: Apr 14 2002

Score 50%

tminos
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Seeing as how artsd has works on Debian, FreeBSD, Slackware, and Gentoo for me, I would be suspect to think that this is a problem with SuSE or its RPM's (ick)

That, and I believe that removing arts would be rather stupid or bad in that so much work has already gone into it, and it can do a good bit as it is.

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I think it rocks ...

by lordvader on: Apr 14 2002

Score 50%

lordvader

I recently installed it after a not too pleasing experience with RC2, and was shocked as to how fast it was (without using objprelink!!!).
Konqueror is still a little unstable, but at least it doesn't kill all other open windows when one goes down (hint hint Mozilla ...)

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heh

by tvon on: Apr 16 2002

Score 50%

tvon
Etria
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Not to argue, but when my konq crashes it takes down all the other konqs.....

Things are rebuilding now....hopefully it will be kosher when I get home...

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I wouldn't know...

by hant on: Apr 14 2002

Score 50%

hant

cause debian packages are not ready yet. Makes me wonder why it takes so damn long.

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Because...

by JAM on: Apr 15 2002

Score 50%

JAM
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some developers take jobs they should leave to others.

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kde3 debs

by diamondc on: Apr 17 2002

Score 50%

diamondc
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someone posted a link to unofficial debs of kde3 on www.debianplanet.org

they work pretty good! make sure to apt-get libqt3-mt and remove all your kde2 packages first. the only drawback is that they install in /opt/kde3 and the debs dont integrate with the debian menu system.

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KDE 3 is awesome

by browerj on: Apr 22 2002

Score 50%

browerj

I am a newbie to linux (less than a year) and I have only been exposed to KDE 2.2 (before upgrading to 3) and I have found 3 to be much faster and look much better than its predecesor. I'm happy with it, keep up the good work.

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kde3 is great

by juln on: May 2 2002

Score 50%

juln
majaba orginization
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I've used just about every desktop for Linux, and KDE3 is the coolest so far... I wasn't a big fan of KDE 1.x, though I thought it was okay... I was very impressed with KDE 2 when it came out and KDE 3 is less of a big jump, but seems to be very important in terms of refinement, from my user point of view.

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What do you think about KDE3?

It's good...

... but it could be better. Much better! We do need more speedups. (Just like the "superfast kde3 bootup" etc.) We don't need more eyecandy. We need BETTER (high-quality) eyecandy. (Crystalstyle/Icons etc.) We do need a better working community! Are you with me? :) ian

No, I am not with you...

You didn't get the point...

I will have to laugh...

Thanks!

:) I will keep up the work! ian

yikes

Please, please calm down. Your going to give yourself a heart attack. -Tom "if I can save just one life" von Schwerdtner

about objprelink

ARTS is broken again

ARTS is not working on SuSE 7.3. This seems to be a recurring update problem (it was broken in 2.2 first too). Maybe KDE should drop ARTS, I've had more problems with it than any benefits...

It works for me...

...on SuSE 7.3. ian

I'd have to 2nd this!

Works for me on 7.2 and 7.3

sound probs in SUSE 7.3

Known Problem...

... I had this problem too. But as you already said the new RPM work properly. ian

Thanks

Thanks! I thought i was stucked with XMMS! (SuSE 7.3)

??

I have SuSE 7.3 on 4 computers, included an iMac and a Cube. Arts works on all of them. I installed SuSE 7.3 on some random laptops of some friends, and arts was working in all cases.

re: arts on SuSE

I think it rocks ...

I recently installed it after a not too pleasing experience with RC2, and was shocked as to how fast it was (without using objprelink!!!). Konqueror is still a little unstable, but at least it doesn't kill all other open windows when one goes down (hint hint Mozilla ...)

heh

Not to argue, but when my konq crashes it takes down all the other konqs..... Things are rebuilding now....hopefully it will be kosher when I get home...

I wouldn't know...

cause debian packages are not ready yet. Makes me wonder why it takes so damn long.

Because...

some developers take jobs they should leave to others.

kde3 debs

someone posted a link to unofficial debs of kde3 on www.debianplanet.org they work pretty good! make sure to apt-get libqt3-mt and remove all your kde2 packages first. the only drawback is that they install in /opt/kde3 and the debs dont integrate with the debian menu system.

KDE 3 is awesome

I am a newbie to linux (less than a year) and I have only been exposed to KDE 2.2 (before upgrading to 3) and I have found 3 to be much faster and look much better than its predecesor. I'm happy with it, keep up the good work.

kde3 is great

... but it could be better. Much better!

We do need more speedups. (Just like the "superfast kde3 bootup" etc.)
We don't need more eyecandy. We need BETTER (high-quality) eyecandy. (Crystalstyle/Icons etc.)
We do need a better working community!

Are you with me? :)

ian

:)

I will keep up the work!

ian

Please, please calm down. Your going to give yourself a heart attack.

-Tom "if I can save just one life" von Schwerdtner

ARTS is not working on SuSE 7.3. This seems to be a recurring update problem (it was broken in 2.2 first too).

Maybe KDE should drop ARTS, I've had more problems with it than any benefits...

...on SuSE 7.3.

ian

... I had this problem too. But as you already said the new RPM work properly.

ian

I have SuSE 7.3 on 4 computers, included an iMac and a Cube. Arts works on all of them.

I installed SuSE 7.3 on some random laptops of some friends, and arts was working in all cases.

I recently installed it after a not too pleasing experience with RC2, and was shocked as to how fast it was (without using objprelink!!!).
Konqueror is still a little unstable, but at least it doesn't kill all other open windows when one goes down (hint hint Mozilla ...)

Not to argue, but when my konq crashes it takes down all the other konqs.....

Things are rebuilding now....hopefully it will be kosher when I get home...

someone posted a link to unofficial debs of kde3 on www.debianplanet.org

they work pretty good! make sure to apt-get libqt3-mt and remove all your kde2 packages first. the only drawback is that they install in /opt/kde3 and the debs dont integrate with the debian menu system.