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Best New KDE4 Feature


Posted by Yaba on Jan 9 2009
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Plasma29%29%29% 29%
KWin with Desktop Effects9%9%9% 9%
Oxygen Theme7%7%7% 7%
Dolphin7%7%7% 7%
Dragon Player1%1%1% 1%
Okular5%5%5% 5%
New KDE PIM2%2%2% 2%
New System Settings1%1%1% 1%
General Cleanups2%2%2% 2%
Improved Usability3%3%3% 3%
Zooming Workspace0%0%0% 0%
All of the above11%11%11% 11%
Haven't found a favourite new feature. KDE 3.5 is still the best KDE22%22%22% 22%
Other2%2%2% 2%
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 Nepomuk

 
 by skulptor on: Jan 9 2009
 
Score 50%

It is still in its infancy, but once fully functional as envisioned, Nepomuk will be the killer application of KDE 4. Being in its infancy sadly also applies to many other KDE 4 pillars.

We should also make a poll about what people think is the worst change. For me, I hate the fact that KDE 3's kwin with kompmgr is a faster and smoother experience than KDE 4's kwin (I only need shadows). Also icon loading speed has degraded to a level that it is unbearable.

The remaining regressions look like small bugs or omissions, that should be easily fixable when time permits.

Right now, the best KDE 4 feature for me is the new CMake build system, so I voted "Other" :)


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 Re: Nepomuk

 
 by Yaba on: Jan 10 2009
 
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Good idea! What's the worst change in KDE 4? Any vote for options in the next poll? What ahall I include?


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 Re: Re: Nepomuk

 
 by janet on: Jan 25 2009
 
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What to include? Same things as in this poll... And loss of pseudo transparency, coupling of mouse wheel scrolling row size of dolphin and konqueror


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 Re: Re: Nepomuk

 
 by Aceler on: Jan 25 2009
 
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The worst change in KDE 4 is a well-known thing. It is a BUGs :)


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 Re: Nepomuk

 
 by thomas12777 on: Jan 10 2009
 
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tried to use the xrender backend?

at least latter nVidia drivers have 'ok' xform... well zoom (2d matrices) support.

thus you can use shadows, exposé and spaces. that's enough to me and you don't have to live with the PixmapToTexture forth-and-back conversion


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 expose

 
 by peratu on: Jan 11 2009
 
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The expose (present windows) effect has a very slow response. It would be instantaneuous, like expose in MacOSX.
When I put my mouse pointer in one of the corners to activate "present windows", I must wait some tenths of second before "present windows" acts. In OSX you don't wait, expose acts instantaneously.


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 Re: expose

 
 by thomas12777 on: Jan 11 2009
 
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i'd say this depends on
a) GPU: 7600GT
b) driver (release) 180.whatever
c) KDE version (trunk)

works instantly here


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 Re: Re: expose

 
 by peratu on: Jan 12 2009
 
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I have nVidia 9600GT and 180.22 driver (latest) and KDE 4.1.3


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 Re: Re: Re: expose

 
 by thomas12777 on: Jan 12 2009
 
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check this page;
http://techbase.kde.org/User:Lemma/KDE4-NVIDIA


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: expose

 
 by peratu on: Jan 14 2009
 
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Well, I have done that this page says and I have improved the speed and the stability of KDE effects, in general.
But present windows has the same problem.
In OSX, if you move quickly the mouse pointer to the activation corner, exposé appears automatically.
In KDE, you can put the mouse pointer in the activation corner, and, if you are fast, you can move the mouse pointer out of the activation corner, and present windows doesn't appear.

Present windows has a little reaction time.
Exposé is instantaneous.


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: expose

 
 by thomas12777 on: Jan 14 2009
 
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nope. not for me - sorry
*shrug* :-(


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: expose

 
 by exit91 on: Jan 15 2009
 
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This is actually a feature. If you looked a bit closely you see a pixel, which the cursor avoids which prevents the effect to be triggered unintendedly.


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: expose

 
 by peratu on: Jan 15 2009
 
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Well, I don't like that feature. Should be configurable to remove this delay.



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 Re: Re: expose

 
 by shrikantkhare on: Jan 14 2009
 
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There is a DELAY set for the EXPOSE effect to start [Hardcoded at present]. I have opened a wish on bugzilla on this matter and an option in SystemSettings to change the time delay will be added.


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 Re: Re: Re: expose

 
 by peratu on: Jan 15 2009
 
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Good news :-) Thank you.


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 Poor Dragon Player

 
 by OpenAugusto on: Jan 13 2009
 
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None by the moment

It doesn't deserve such a treatment (0%).

Plasma improved a lot, but I think the best were the small improvements all over KDE.


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 Not sure about it

 
 by k3ks on: Jan 14 2009
 
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I'm not really happy with KDE4 yet.
I'm amazed everytime i use it and i like all the new ideas (Nepomuk, Plasma ..) but i do not benefit of them yet.
I really hope there will be features usefull for me which i can't have on a Gnome Desktop, because then i'll change imediatly


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 Why ??

 
 by blackhat77 on: Jan 22 2009
 
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Hi,
I am trying more and more times to understand why the hell the new stuff it is rejected at first glance!

How the hell is it possible that the 22% of people are considering 3.* the best ever... Nostalgic or blind.. or let me think.. maybe just because they like contradictions?

People come on! Please...if you do not appreciate the new stuff why should people continue to code? Just keep 3.5 for the rest of your days than.. why not?

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Anyway that was only my point of view.. Nothing personal.. If you would like to keep 3.5, that is your choice... But here, in the world of 4, you are really losing something: a new era of experiences and dreams...
Polls are done to get statistic at the end right? ..and to let us all understand how different we are!



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 Re: Why ??

 
 by Temet on: Jan 23 2009
 
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Well, take in consideration that some users are running Gentoo in stable version (like me) and that these people (still like me) can't install KDE 4 if they want to keep a stable installation.

I will probably give a chance again to OpenSuse with KDE 4 but each time I'm fed up with Gentoo and install another distro, it doesn't take more than 2 days to me to get back to Gentoo and become a really Happy Gentoo User for some months.

Let's hope 4.2 will be stabilized on Gentoo... I would really like to use KDE 4... but not at any cost (using another disto).


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 Re: Why ??

 
 by brucelilly on: Jan 24 2009
 
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> ... why the hell the new stuff it is rejected at first glance

Incorrect assumption. I've tried several times with different releases in 4.0.x and 4.1.x. It just isn't usable.

> How the hell is it possible that the 22% of people are considering 3.* the best ever

4.x just doesn't work (no hide buttons for the taskbar so one can't get to buttons that are hidden behind it, the clock applet has no way to set the font size for the "plain" clock, so it consumes all of the taskbar space, ksysguard signal plotter background color doesn't get set to the specified color but to an awful gradient that obscures data, etc. ad nauseum)

> why should people continue to code

To fix bugs, to add missing capability (e.g. a Usenet newsreader for KDE that properly handles MIME multipart messages), to improve performance (especially on old/limited capability hardware), ...

Frankly, I'm surprised that that "22%" isn't much higher. A lot of long-time KDE supporters are greatly disappointed at the unprecedented problems with KDE 4. E.g. see
http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/01/24/1842218


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 KDEPIM is awesome

 
 by Aceler on: Jan 25 2009
 
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The shiny new KDE PIM is the only one cause, that I'm not switched back to 3.5 or Gnome.


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