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Short answer - no

by mosfet on: May 17 2002

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mosfet
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I never said it was going to be the last release. There is still bugfixing, etc... that needs to go on. I also said that although I am on hiatus I am still doing some Linux stuff, but it is taking a back seat to things that pay the bills.

I'm not taking Liquid away, nor am I completely stopping development on it. This isn't a "Mosfet takes off" scenario ;-) Nonetheless most of what little spare time I have for Linux is focused now on application development. I am getting sick and tired of dealing with widget styles, and for good reason. I want to do other things.

Read my website at www.mosfet.org for more information.

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uhh, freebsd lic...

by thestorm on: May 17 2002

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thestorm

afiak, around 0.9.3 or so, mosfet changed to the freebsd license to "provide more examples"... i think it's open code and that's how people keep making hacks for it.

i don't think mosfet will NOT be back, but i dunno. i'm sure people send him a lot of dumb mail. i tried to send him a quick email letting him know how to compile it on redhat from source (i figured he could put it on the site and stop getting confused email from redhat users) but all i got back was a terse and nasty note saying that if i liked redhat, i should get rpm's make of it. bleh! that's not a nice way to treat a fan...

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Readme

by Richardve on: May 17 2002

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Richardve

[quote]but all i got back was a terse and nasty note saying that if i liked redhat, i should get rpm's make of it. bleh! that's not a nice way to treat a fan...[/quote]

Many people (especially the so called 'newbies') are complaining about the short notes they are getting from the 'professionals'..
But how would _you_ react if you had to spend a few hours a day writing replies?

Those emails HAVE to be short because otherwise the author has to spend all day on his email instead of doing real work (paying work for example ;).

(but most people under ~18 don't seem to understand this unfortunately)

Be happy that you got a reply back, some people don't even send a reply..
People of ~18 years and older just have less time, that's all.. time is money, and every letter or smiley being typed costs time ;)

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by Chip Killer on: May 19 2002

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Chip Killer

yes I agree but a lot of people don't seem to understand this kind of behaviour.

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NOOOO!!!

by WinterWolf on: May 18 2002

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WinterWolf

Please Mosfet don't stop improving Liquid. Liquid is the greatest thing that ever happened to Linux! It's what first got me and my friends interested in Linux. Please keep working on MHPL. I think it is the ebst thing you have ever done to linux so far.

it is the highest rated submission at KDE-Look.org (a whopping 92%)

it is often mentioned in many linux articles

it has 408 comments

only the tar version has gotten 66,200 downloads! This does not include the many RPMS for liquid from SUSE, pclinuxonline.com and many other places.

it is extremely popular and thousands of people love it.

it is very fast usable and customizable.

I think you are the best coder the linux community has ever seen, but you need to make sure your work is advertised and marketed. MIMS when it is in beta or RC stage should be included in KDE or popular Linux distributions like SUSE and Redhat.

Anyway, please keep working on your High Performance Liquid theme. At least get it up to a great 1.0 release with a new submission on KDE-look because it takes forever to load it. After the 1.0 release if you decide you can't spend enough time on it allow other people to modify it and give you the code and you should be the one deciding if the code goes in or not.

Best Regards!

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sorry,

by fred on: May 19 2002

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fred

but all this is so stupid is difficult to believe. I am following OSS efforts since 1993 and this is the first time i see a developer complaining his OSS app is not popular enough, and blaming it on the desktop he is writing for and the users who don�t download it!
All this is incredibly childish. Just a few points, all of them fairly obvious, but it�s necessary to repeat them, it seems ...
First: not all of us are graphic artists. I have tried out Pixie, just out of curiosity, and found it really fast, but i have no need whatsoever for such an application, and furthmore, no web maintainer that i know needs to load 5000 thumbnails into a viewer.
Second: even if it sures pleases your teen ego to think that the only reason why Pixie hasn�t got world recognition is because the evil KDE core developers didn�t put it into CVS, I am sorry to tell you this is just a feeble excuse. Users could care less whether Pixie is into CVS or not, they try the apps their distro comes with, or the ones they see their friends using. You decided to develop an app in such a saturated field as image manipulation, if users are not flocking to your website is simply because they already have alternatives that suit their needs.
Third: whereas only a small fraction of us are graphic artists, ALL of us use a window manager with a theme. How can you COMPLAIN about LIquid�s huge (and well-deserved)popularity (and users asking new features for it) simply escapes me ... If i didn�t know your past behaviour i would say you were just fishing for compliments ...
fourth (and last) point: your menace to leave KDE and develop for Qt only "to increase the user base" is the most arrogant and superficial statement i ever read in the field of OSS. Where would you be without KDE, mosfet? and do you really think KDE would not be on EVERY linux desktop even without you? you do know the cool work other people are doing for KDE here on k-l.org, do you? Do develop for Qt only, mosfet, i am sincerely curious to see how many people will drop CorelPaint to use MosPaint ..

sorry for the longish message and to mosfet: thanks again for Liquid

peace out!

fred

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by Richardve on: May 19 2002

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Richardve

I would really like to try MosfetPaint, but there's no way to download this program..

(can't find any link)

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argh

by Richardve on: May 19 2002

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Richardve

I suck!

This shouldn't be a reply to the previous post, sorry! :/

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Oops,

by Richardve on: May 19 2002

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Richardve

I mean: the previous post shouldn't be a reply to the post before that post to that previous post..

Or something like that :)

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Reson why

by WinterWolf on: May 19 2002

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WinterWolf

Some of Mosfet's programs aren't downloaded eough. mosfet.org has no links to the downloads. you have to know the adress. There isn't enough advertising for it.

It also says it's in alpha stage so people will be afraid the ptogram is very very unstable or doesen't ahve all the features or doesen't work well. That's why I didn't try it. I was waiting for a beta for example. But I just downloaded today and I have to say this program is fantastic! Better than ACD SEE PowerPack in speed. GREAT JOB ON IT DANIEL! But, please liquid is also great so don't give up on it either.

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Big Deal

by hoju on: May 19 2002

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hoju

I like Liquid a lot too and I used to be a huge Mosfet fan. He has done a lot for KDE even running the news site for it for a while. But he is also a big baby. I don't give a crap if he leaves KDE now. We don't need him, sure it would be great to have more releases of liquid but if we have to put up with Mosfets childish whining all the time then I say good ridence!!

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Short answer - no

uhh, freebsd lic...

Readme

yes I agree but a lot of people don't seem to understand this kind of behaviour.

NOOOO!!!

sorry,

.

I would really like to try MosfetPaint, but there's no way to download this program.. (can't find any link)

argh

I suck! This shouldn't be a reply to the previous post, sorry! :/

Oops,

I mean: the previous post shouldn't be a reply to the post before that post to that previous post.. Or something like that :)

Reson why

Big Deal

I would really like to try MosfetPaint, but there's no way to download this program..

(can't find any link)

I suck!

This shouldn't be a reply to the previous post, sorry! :/

I mean: the previous post shouldn't be a reply to the post before that post to that previous post..

Or something like that :)