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Description:	Well, I think there are a lot of new themers who have trouble understanding gtkrc and think that the widget factory is some magical app that once you have that installed and you know how to use it theming becomes very easy. So this group I thought I'd start because I know there are a lot of experienced themers here with a lot of knowledge and a lot of new themers which have a lot of questions. This would be the place to discuss possible bugs and fixes and ideas and such. I think we need a place like this because: "No problem should ever have to be solved twice." Join if you have any knowledge in gtkrc or are interested in starting making themes and contributing to this site! Useful links: Object hierarchy (very useful for figuring out how to assign different classes and widgets and for figuring out why things got messed up during your last edit): http://library.gnome.org/devel/gtk/stable/ch01.html Nice set of useful links on a number of topic: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/Tutorials/UsefulLinks Well linked theming tutorial: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/Tutorials/GtkThemes Yet another guide to theming: http://orford.org/gtk/ Another great set of links (some to the ones above, but there are more): http://www.gtk.org/documentation.html You can spend a lot of time clicking around live.gnome.org's stuff and get a lot of really useful information. http://library.gnome.org/devel/gtk/unstable/
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hide-buttons on panel

by Arlanthir on: Jun 9 2008

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Hi everyone and congratulations on the group!

I saw twrock's explanation of how to theme panel widgets and I was hoping one could also theme those horrible hide buttons on the panel.

I like to have a fully transparent panel and having those opaque hide buttons really kills the mood.
Is there a way to fix this through gtk theming?

Re: hide-buttons on panel

by twrock on: Jun 9 2008

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twrock

Do you mean like the "show/hide" desktop button, whether or not it has a button behind the icon? If so, try this:
widget_class "PanelGtkToggleButton" style "nobutton"

Then create a "nobutton" style that has a transparent PNG file for the button. (I can give more details if I'm on the right track and you need more specific help.)

Re: Re: hide-buttons on panel

by Arlanthir on: Jun 9 2008

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Actually it's not a button on the panel itself, it's those Hide-Buttons on the edge... Here:

http://img55.imageshack.us/my.php?image=buttonspj7.png

Re: Re: Re: hide-buttons on pa

by TheRob on: Jun 9 2008

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That's a very good question... I haven't
managed to figure out a way on how to locate
the class of those, it's really tricky
to theme the panel (it's the hardest widget
to theme in my opinion).
if I however manage to do it I will let you
know here, if there is anyone out there
that knows the secret of this widget,
please reply here!)

//Robert

\\\\\\\"life sucks, get a f***ing helmet alright!\\\\\\\" -Denis Leary
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Re: Re: Re: Re: hide-buttons on pa

by Arlanthir on: Jun 9 2008

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Thank you very much! =)
If I happen to see it somewhere else I'll let you know!

Re: Re: Re: Re: hide-buttons on pa

by twrock on: Jun 14 2008

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twrock

Robert, I can do it with a panel background, but not yet with a completely transparent background (sorry Arlanthir).

If you are still using the "unstyle" style in your theme, try adding this line at the very end of the gtkrc:
widget "PanelButton*" style "unstyle"

For some reason that works in my xSkin theme, so if you are still using that bit of code, it might work for you also. Unchecking the "Arrow on hide buttons" in the Panel Properties reduces the "button" further and basically makes it "invisible" (of course it is still there, just not noticeable).

Maybe that is a start someone else can use to find a "real" solution.

Good luck.

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: hide-butto

by TheRob on: Jun 14 2008

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Great!

well it's the best we've got atm!

//Robert

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Text colorization

by szerencsefia on: Jun 12 2008

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Hi Everybody!
I would like to know what should I study in order to understand the text colorization rules.
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I want to set the entry text color to black on my LUX theme on a way that the general text color will be still @text_color but somehow the entry text does not change in spite of the code I have added. I suppose it is a matter of some sequence in the code but, something overrides the text color of entries.
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In other worlds I want to set the text colors on LUX that Open Office dialog box will have the text light and the entry field text (i.e. within gedit) will stay black.

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Re: Text colorization

by code933k on: Jun 12 2008

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widget_class "Entry" style "xxx"
Check out the debuging property of the eXperience engine. You'll see there exactly what "entries" do you need to make work "Entry" with more fine grained control.

Is that what you were asking for?

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Re: Re: Text colorization

by TheRob on: Jun 12 2008

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I tried themeing openoffice.org using the
exact classes from the experience engine
class hinter... with no results at all...
can that have something to do with it not
being an actual gtk app?

//Robert

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Re: Re: Re: Text colorization

by code933k on: Jun 12 2008

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I don't really think so. Perhaps it is because exact matches are a pretty bad idea. But better post the code for us to crawl into your guts ;)

widget_class "GtkWindow.GtkMenu.GtkSeparatorMenuItem" style "xxx"

Is the more specific thing I have defined AFAICR. You can try by erasing part by part replacing the endings with * until you get it working...

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Re: Re: Re: Text colorization

by code933k on: Jun 12 2008

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I meant, exact matches can be tricky most times and you will need to define too much classes so your code will be more memory hungry and/or slower.

Get a life! Out of Internet are plenty opportunities to do real life tasks, as for example killing people. You can do it _serially_ if you want to!
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Text colorizat

by TheRob on: Jun 12 2008

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Yeah I know :)

I actually gave up on it (since I had
similar problems elsewhere)

I tried to modify the prelight text on
the menues (and nothing is more tricky
than the menu-text in open office :D)

and made the menues all light without any
dark at all :)
(that is the easiest way to go, I haven't
had anyone report an deadly bug on my
latest theme which is all light without
any dark)

well, enough of my blabbering :D
also, I saw from the screenshot that you
have further developed the titanium projekt :D
I'm really keen on getting my hands on it
since I can't use the version you have now,
since for some reason, ubuntu doesn't
seem to work good with svg icons
(yes I have all svg packages installed)
and leaves all the menues and some
places in my fav file manager without
icons so I'm really looking forward
to the next release!

I really appreciate the work you are doing
man!

all the best!

//Robert

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Text color

by code933k on: Jun 14 2008

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I got a script for converting it to PNG, Since then no more complains I hope.

But I have to move my system from Gentoo to Source Mage first supposing I don't have too much issues with gcc-4.3 in amd64 there :p

I will check out the O_o issue then (I neither use O_o). Perhaps one should do the definitions in the Oorg language but that's to much for bothering about: Firefox and O_o aren't what I call "comfortable" for gtkrc theme enthusiasts... Have someone tried with Gooffice? or moving away to the KDE4 stable world? (there is a new engine for Jeff Ks out there) ;)

By the way the WIKI is alive but I need to change the default CSS first, that default is just embarrassing :p

So the gnome-look group of Jeff K. went down... Why I am not surprised?
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Text c

by TheRob on: Jun 14 2008

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Glad to hear :D

yeah I read about source mage too :D
"linux so advanced it might aswell be magic"

or something like that is their slogan :D

I actually installed kde 4.1 beta 1 yesterday,
and from what I have seen so far... f**k
man! this seems to be lightyears ahaed
of any other de :O

And I always hated kde... but this isn't really
kde anymore in my opinion, it looks like
a crossing between gnome and kde with
the best of the both :D

(I have just installed it so I'll probably
find the cons later on, but it's def
worth a try!)

//Robert

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Text c

by code933k on: Jun 14 2008

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Mhh... It was a joke. But I am quite happy that you are experimenting and feeding of different experiences.

The thing which doesn't pleased me of KDE is his memory hungriness and instability, KDE4 is worse yet in such aspects AFAIK. Just like driving Windows: "You'll never know when your car will go out of gas".

But I was pretty sure that most people would jump over it because of its 'reworked' interfaces. Well, Can you please post a screenshot?
(In a source based distro, installing KDE is just suicidal ;)

Get a life! Out of Internet there are plenty opportunities to do real life tasks, as for example killing people. You can do it _serially_ if you want to!

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Text color

by TheRob on: Jun 16 2008

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hehe!

I can believe that's true yes :D

screenshot... well sure, I haven't
changed anything at all so it's really really
default desktop but for once,,, I actually
like it :)

screenshot here:
http://img122.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshoteg2.jpg

//Robert

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Re: Re: Text colorization

by szerencsefia on: Jun 15 2008

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Thanks, I am not sure yet if this was the answer. Could you let me know where I can find the 'debuging property of the eXperience engine'? Thu.

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Re: Re: Re: Text colorization

by code933k on: Jun 15 2008

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The explanation:

Go back to the page 2, it is under the title Re: Re: Re: GIMP

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Re: Re: Text colorization

by szerencsefia on: Aug 4 2008

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Thank you for the help. I could identify the needed widgets by using your eXperience engine. Thus the text colorization is solved.

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Modding themes for macmenu...

by Izo on: Jun 21 2008

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Hi all! I'm wondering if you can help me on this one...

How would I go about modding any theme in order to make it compatible for the global menu/macmenu hack?

There's a few of fratrip's themes I'd like to "macify" (fratrip.deviantart.com).

Please note, I am a complete n00b to gtkrc theming.

Cheers in advance!

/izo\

Re: Modding themes for macmenu...

by TheRob on: Jun 22 2008

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hmmmmm, that depends a little, could you
post a screenshot using the theme with
macmenu?

I would test myself but I have switched over
to kde so I can't do that.

It is really easy to do and doesn't take
more than a minute :)

//Robert

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selected text font

by Arlanthir on: Jun 30 2008

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Is there a way to change the font of the selected menu item without changing the font of the others?

I'm using font_name = "Bold" but every menu item changes, and not only the selected one :S

Re: selected text font

by TheRob on: Jul 1 2008

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hmmmmmmmmmmm, I don't think so since
they all have the same class just different
state....

I could be wrong tho!

//Robert

PS. if I'm wrong and you come up with
a solution, please let me see the code :D

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My GTK Theme scrollbars

by Gnominator on: Jul 4 2008

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Anybody know how to make scrollbars pressable? I liked WinXP's scrollbar press effect and i want to implement it in my XPLuna theme...

Adt: My GTK Theme scrollbars

by Gnominator on: Jul 4 2008

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Gnominator

And steppers (scrollbuttons) too?

Re: Adt: My GTK Theme scrollbars

by twrock on: Jul 10 2008

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twrock

I'm not sure what you mean by "pressable". If you mean that they have a different look to them when the are in the pressed state, then yes, that function is available. If I'm not understanding you, then ignore what is below.

For example, using the pixmap engine, the scollbar can have a "pressed state" like this:
# Vertical slider (Active)
image
{
function = SLIDER
recolorable = TRUE
state = ACTIVE
file = "scrollbar/slider-vert-prelight.png"
border = { 5, 5, 5, 5 }
stretch = TRUE
orientation = VERTICAL
overlay_file = "scrollbar/grip-vert-prelight.png"
overlay_stretch = FALSE
orientation = VERTICAL
}

And the button, like this:
image
{
function = STEPPER
recolorable = TRUE
state = ACTIVE
file = "scrollbar/stepper-up-active.png"
#border = { 12, 2, 2, 10 }
stretch = TRUE
arrow_direction = UP
}

(Both of these are copied from my xSkin theme if you want to look at the code some more.)

wiki

by brainiac05 on: Jul 8 2008

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brainiac05

so whats up with the wiki you talked about earlier. is there a way i can help with it.. im new to theming but i really like to see the linux theming community to grow. and of course i wanna learn too :D