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Re: Thanks!

by yodor on: Apr 10 2007

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Thank you for your request. And yes, finally!
This is the initial version. I'm preparing the option for the numeric pad and also a special button function to enter user specified keycode

change layout?

by chandraiitk on: Apr 10 2007

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it seems to be very nice app but does it have any option to change the layout depending on locale i.e. Japanese keyboard's layout use to be different than that of US-english layout.

If it is possible, how about adding this feature in it?! I think this would add a great value to this app.

Thanks!!

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Re: change layout?

by yodor on: Apr 10 2007

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Hi there,

keyboard layout is changed via KDE keyboard layout tool.
Keys on Kvkbd send corresponding keycodes as if they were typed on the real keyboard.
Hope this will help !

Re: Re: change layout?

by ralesk on: Apr 10 2007

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Ah, I think Japanese keyboards also come with extra keys (in the area of Alt and AltGr), that's probably what the user meant. I don't know much about those boards though — Wikipedia might be of more help.

JP special keys

by yodor on: Apr 10 2007

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Ok I can understand, I had a look at japanese keyboard at wikipedia. I'll be gladd to add them.
So if you can send me the corresponding keycodes - xev tool dumps all possible keys - I can add them.
But honestly I think we all should use the keyboard layout tool to change input style. Why do we need more keys?

Re: JP special keys

by chandraiitk on: Apr 11 2007

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I will send u these codes. Please add it.

thanks in advance :-)

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Re: JP special keys

by ralesk on: Apr 12 2007

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Well, I know that in Korean there’s a Hangeul/Hanja key which is a switch between the Korean alphabet and the borrowed Chinese characters (which they rarely, but do use). I have a wild guess that it wouldn’t be nice for them to have to install a Chinese input method just to be able to write the classic form of names, not to mention said characters are pronounced differently in the two languages.

Japanese keyboards come with a full vs. half-width key, but I too don’t see the point why they couldn’t just, so to say, Alt-Shift over to the American layout if they so want to type Latin characters. And I think they do have some hiragana vs. katakana shift too? Not quite sure.

Re: Re: JP special k

by chandraiitk on: Apr 12 2007

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there use to be a special key to shift between Japaneses-input and Latin-input. Also, if switched into the Japaneses-input mode, then another key automatically gets activated which allows one to shift between hiragana-katakana-romaji (romaji chars are English alphabets).

These are the two mostly used keys to handle Japaneses chars. If they want to change the hiragana into kanji, they use space-key or sometimes another special key.

Well, also, they have special key for each Japaneses char. however, they seldom use this feature. what is do is, they type English chars corresponding to the pronunciation and that automatically converts into the Japaneses char.
e.g. if they want to the japanese char "ka", they enter "k" and "a" and this automatically converts into the japanese char "ka". Although, as I said before, they have special key to enter the Japanese char "ka" directly (after changing the input mode). However, very very few people use such direct input.

So, what would be sufficient is to provide a special key to shift between Latin-input and Japanese-input, and also a key to change between Hiragana, Katakana, and Romaji. Also, a special key to change between full-width and ha;f-width char...i mean, in total, 3 special keys would be sufficient.

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Key code using Xev

by chandraiitk on: Apr 12 2007

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Following are the xev output for the special Japaneses kays.

xev output
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Important Special Keys
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1). Key to change between Japanese-input and Latin-input:

KeyPress event, serial 31, synthetic NO, window 0x3200001,
root 0x187, subw 0x0, time 3840518987, (-224,122), root:(548,216),
state 0x0, keycode 49 (keysym 0xff2a, Zenkaku_Hankaku), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 0 bytes:
XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes:
XFilterEvent returns: False

KeyRelease event, serial 31, synthetic NO, window 0x3200001,
root 0x187, subw 0x0, time 3840519066, (-224,122), root:(548,216),
state 0x0, keycode 49 (keysym 0xff2a, Zenkaku_Hankaku), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 0 bytes:
XFilterEvent returns: False

2). Key to change between Hiragana, Katakana, and Romaji:

KeyPress event, serial 31, synthetic NO, window 0x3200001,
root 0x187, subw 0x0, time 3840659711, (-292,243), root:(480,337),
state 0x0, keycode 208 (keysym 0xff27, Hiragana_Katakana), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 0 bytes:
XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes:
XFilterEvent returns: False

KeyRelease event, serial 31, synthetic NO, window 0x3200001,
root 0x187, subw 0x0, time 3840659760, (-292,243), root:(480,337),
state 0x0, keycode 208 (keysym 0xff27, Hiragana_Katakana), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 0 bytes:
XFilterEvent returns: False

3). Key to change between full-width-hiragana, full-width-katakana, and half-width-katakana chars (half-width hiragana is never used)

KeyPress event, serial 31, synthetic NO, window 0x3200001,
root 0x187, subw 0x0, time 3840854276, (-199,234), root:(573,328),
state 0x0, keycode 131 (keysym 0xff22, Muhenkan), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 0 bytes:
XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes:
XFilterEvent returns: False

KeyRelease event, serial 31, synthetic NO, window 0x3200001,
root 0x187, subw 0x0, time 3840854377, (-199,234), root:(573,328),
state 0x0, keycode 131 (keysym 0xff22, Muhenkan), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 0 bytes:
XFilterEvent returns: False

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
The following one is used but space-key also does same funcion. If possible, implement this also:
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

4). Key to Change between Hiragana-Kanji

KeyPress event, serial 31, synthetic NO, window 0x3200001,
root 0x187, subw 0x0, time 3840771488, (-314,245), root:(458,339),
state 0x2, keycode 129 (keysym 0xff23, Henkan_Mode), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 0 bytes:
XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes:
XFilterEvent returns: False

KeyRelease event, serial 31, synthetic NO, window 0x3200001,
root 0x187, subw 0x0, time 3840771604, (-314,245), root:(458,339),
state 0x2, keycode 129 (keysym 0xff23, Henkan_Mode), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 0 bytes:
XFilterEvent returns: False

=================
Compilation Error:
=================

Make is showing following error. Please tell me what package I need to install for successful compilation.

make ERROR:
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mv -f .deps/VButton.moc.Tpo .deps/VButton.moc.Po
/bin/sh ../libtool --silent --tag=CXX --mode=link g++ -Wno-long-long -Wundef -ansi -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_BSD_SOURCE -Wcast-align -Wconversion -Wchar-subscripts -Wall -W -Wpointer-arith -O2 -Wformat-security -Wmissing-format-attribute -Wno-non-virtual-dtor -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -fno-common -R /usr/lib -R /usr/lib -R /usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib -R /usr/lib -L/usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib -L/usr/lib -o kvkbd DragWidget.o KeyClip.o MainWidget.o VButton.o main.o MainWidget.moc.o DragWidget.moc.o VButton.moc.o -lXtst -lkdeui
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXtst
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[2]: * [kvkbd] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/opt/kvkbd-0.2/src'
make[1]: * [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/opt/kvkbd-0.2'
make: *** [all] Error 2

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Re: Key code using Xev

by yodor on: Apr 12 2007

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Hi,

You need XTest extension to compile.

Thanks for the xev output, I'll do my best to implement all request.

Re: Re: Key code usi

by chandraiitk on: Apr 13 2007

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Thank you. But could u tell me where can I install this XTest extension from?? I mean, which package should I install to have this extension?!

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XTest

by yodor on: Apr 13 2007

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XTest extension is part of Xorg dtribution. It depends on what distribution you use for the name of the package. But googling or serching the pages of your linux distribution for xtest extension might help you

Gentoo ebuild...

by jirityr on: Apr 10 2007

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Hi,

I have made an ebuild for Gentoo users:
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=174054

Cheers,
Jiri

PS: It would be nice if the characters on the virtual keyboard would be changed to the right characters when I change the localisation of the keyboard (e.g. US->CZ). Also the arrows an numeric pad would be nice.

Re: Gentoo ebuild...

by yodor on: Apr 11 2007

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Thank for the ebuild !
With latest update key texts are auto changed in respect to the current layout selected with kde keyboard tool.

Re: Re: Gentoo ebuil

by jirityr on: Apr 12 2007

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Thanks for the implementation of the keyboard layout switching. I have found that when I click on SHIFT button, the Czech characters have been changed to uppercase characters, but the rest of keys are still lowercase characters. It would be nice if you will change this behaviour in next version.

The numeric pad and the arrows are still missing. It would be nice to have complete virtual keyboard.

Thank you very much for your very good job. Please keep working on this useful project.

Cheers,
Jiri

Re: Re: Gentoo ebuil

by jirityr on: Apr 12 2007

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An other note. It would be nice if I click first time on the icon of the kvkbd to it shows the application and if I click second time on the icon to it hidden the application. It's just a detail, but it would be useful.

Cheers,
Jiri

Re: Re: Gentoo ebuil

by jirityr on: Apr 13 2007

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Thanks for all the changes. Kvkbd works now very well for me.

1) Now it would be nice to have DCOP interface. Then we could show/hide kvkbd by special button on a tablet by ACPI. Something like: "dcop kvkbd hide" or "dcop kvkbd show".

2) Numeric pad and the arrows keys would be nice.

3) Also snapping of kvkbd application to the borders of the screen would be nice.

4) Last thing could be resizing of kvkbd over screen to fill up the screen vertically.

Re: Re: Re: Gentoo e

by jirityr on: Apr 18 2007

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Thanks for trying to implement the DCOP support, but I have got this error:

$ dcop kvkbd kvkbd
object 'kvkbd' in application 'kvkbd' not accessible

Re: Re: Re: Re: Gent

by jirityr on: Apr 18 2007

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It shut shows the options "show" and "hide".

Anyway it works how it's implemented now.

Yay, someone...

by cookies on: Apr 10 2007

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... finally made one. Thank you!

I'm too lazy to put something witty here.
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This is monumental

by suslik on: Apr 11 2007

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This is a great step on the way to making KDE usable on tablets. Awesome!