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New Spam Removal Tool

  

KDE4 Brainstorm

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Downloads:  56
Submitted:  Jun 7 2006

Description:

Small Intro to the idea (skipable):

We're trying to make KDE great for the user right? Existing and New? My idea was to focus on the problems both of these groups have. SPAM.

Those of us who haven't been living under a rock these past few years has seen the phenomenal success of Firefox and Thunderbird- partly because they make UI better (for which we already have great ideas) AND relief from the internets worst features (malware and spam)

KDE is going in a great direction but what about the features in existing programs?


The idea:

WE NEED BUILT IN SPAM REMOVAL.

With Kontact/Kmail one can be pounded with spam but in KDE the user can take advantage of some brilliant cross program tools, why not expand that?
With Kmail, Akregator, Kopete and Konqueror a user is probably going to view/talk about their interests, visit sites that they want to know about etc

The idea is to use these four pillars of KDE software to form a great antispam tool, at the moment we haven't got such a great selection and it could be a great feature.

Simple examples:

Example1:
A user visits xbox.com in Konqueror and signs up for a newsletter, because it's in his/her history and they submitted their email the system knows Xbox.com emails are ok.

On the flipside if the user really is interested in "Free Vi@gra" and "P0rn PicZ" then it knows this too from their history and DOESN'T filter it.

Example two:
User talks about a website or a topic on Kopete with a friend, and emails with these commonly used themes aren't blocked. Neither are emails from the people the user talks to.

Example three:
Akregator's feeds also help the spam filter.

Example four:
Anything from somebody in the users address book is ok (pretty sure this is already in)

A term filter could be included, so if you worked at "Initech" emails with the word in would NEVER be spam.

Obviously normal features like training would/could be incorporated but personally I see this as a feature only possible in a big project like KDE where the applications can connect so well. I'd say it's a killer app and likely to be increasingly needed in the future for many users. Thunderbird has built in spam filtering, as will the next OE (IIRC), KDE shouldn't fall behind (or fall back on inferior tools)

Useful to older users and enticing for new users.


(Disclaimer: Linux Noob post, sorry if this is wrongly formatted or in the wrong place...or plain rubbish!)




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 it allready exists

 
 by cyb on: Jun 7 2006
 
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Well it allready exists (but it might be improve), tools > anti-spam/anti-virus wizard


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 Re: it allready exists

 
 by johnrichardandrew on: Jun 7 2006
 
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Yeah I understand that we can have spam features in Kontact but they aren't there by default (some distros obviously bundle it)

The major idea is to unify the great communication tools that KDE provides so a spam tool built in from the start can gather info from all the users internet activity. Hence getting a better ratio of positives:false positives.


Spamassasin isn't doing a good job on my email account, exact duplicate emails sent by "different" senders aren't recognised as spam, whereas newsletters I sign up for are counted as spam- wouldn't it be better if I entered my email for a website that it becomes whitelisted.

Bogofilter is hard to configure, we can't expect that effort from a new user.


Thunderbird has fantastic spam protection built in!

That's something a unified system like people seem to be planning for KDE4 could be fantastic at.


N.B.
Couldn't people explain the negative ratings they're giving, so a better idea can be formed, it's almost trolling if you decrease ratings without justification or contribution, obviously some people would be busy but for future reference.


Anybody else find it irritating that people will rate negatively without explaining why?
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 Is not so easy

 
 by ibc on: Jun 7 2006
 
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A user visits xbox.com in Konqueror and signs up for a newsletter, because it's in his/her history and they submitted their email the system knows Xbox.com emails are ok.

But then if a spammer sends you a mail "From: user@xbox.com" your antispam will always let that spam.

In fact, usually the antispam use tecniques more advanced that the test of "From" field, because fields like this is exactly the mechanism that the spammers use to send spam.


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 Re: Is not so easy

 
 by johnrichardandrew on: Jun 8 2006
 
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Fair point, forgot about that type of spam!
Would an anti-phishing tool help in those scenarios? Something to do quick checks on who sent it and where the links point to?

Obviously the idea needs some work, but at present I think the spam protection on offer needs more work and needs to be there by default, learning from the start.


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 Base for kaspam

 
 by rapsys on: Jun 26 2006
 
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I have hear of that project :
http://dspam.nuclearelephant.com/

It's a c++ based antispam

It's avaible under GPL, so it may be integrated in kde easily (more or less)

It should be great for kmail4 ;)

Plz have a look, it should be better that current slow, hard to configure, not portable spamassassin and bogofilter.


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 Nice idea

 
 by brcha on: Jul 5 2006
 
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I like your idea. It would be nice to have a tool similar to what you described. It nicely integrates all the knowledge into one goal.

Sure there are bugs in your design (ie, what the other person said about user@xbox.com), but this is just a first draft of the design.

Please, start the project, and I will join you and help you build that application (or plugin, whatever).


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