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Kuroo

0.81.0_rc1

KDE System Tool

Score 85%

karye

Link: http://kuroo.org
Downloads: 15041

Submitted: Sep 6 2004
Updated: Sep 6 2007

Description:

A KDE Portage frontend that allows you to do most common software maintenance tasks on gentoo systems.
Joint project with openusability.org.

With this version we have established a GUI that allows you to do your most common tasks you have to do in your emerge-life. Kuroo does not aim to subsitute the power of the command-line EMERGE, but is thought as a little helper for your daily life. We will continue to enable more powerfull features in the forthcoming versions. If you like to ask for a certain functionallity feel invited to do so on: kuroo.org, #kuroo or info@kuroo.org.

Feature highlight:
Unified package view: fast package browsing and searching with filters.
Package Inspector for advanced package management.
Configuration files management with KDiff3.
Support for multiple portage overlay's.
Package stability calculation.

Changelog:

0.81:
===================
BUGFIXES:
#61
#243
#248

ENHANCEMENTS:
Solved a glitch wich would show a filter related error when no updates are available.
fetchrestricted for eclean is not needed unless destructive is used too (solved)
eclean bug: Does not exists minutes measure. Changing default to hours.
Added possibility to set custom buffer size in number of lines.
Removed included SQLite support in favor of a external SQLite library.
Updated credits of About box

License: GPL

Gentoo

(Kuroo ebuild)

Gentoo

(Reporting bugs and feature requests)

Gentoo

(Installation instructions)

Gentoo

(Source)

(OpenUsability.org)

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Excellent, but lacks

by Linuster on: Sep 26 2004

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Linuster

1. Portage Tree tab does not indicate when a particular package is already installed. It is supposed to, but doesn't.

2. No way to start as normal user, and then enter root password for emerge operation.

3. Flakey behavior. Summary/changelog do not understand whitespace characters, and they do not always update when you click on a different package. RMB menu is broken.

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Re: Excellent, but l

by karye on: Sep 26 2004

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Nice you like it!

1. Guitoo-0.46.0 doesn't look in portage overlay yet. Will come in next release.

2. Quite complicated to do. Need to restart app with new user to achieve that!

3. Cleaner output coming in next release. Correct, it shows only info for the package at the bottom of the list.

What do you mean by "RMB menu broken"?

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Re: Re: Excellent, b

by Antiorganic on: Sep 28 2004

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"2. Quite complicated to do. Need to restart app with new user to achieve that!"

Wouldn't it be possible to write it as an admin-privileged KControl module? While I'm not versed in the specifics, I'd imagine it would take care of all the authentication business for you.

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Re: Re: Excellent, but l

by cyb on: Sep 30 2004

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You might have a look to kpackage which can be use by a simple user, and ask for the password before doing an operation.

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Re: Excellent, but lacks

by blaster999 on: Oct 1 2004

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>2. No way to start as normal user, and then enter root password for emerge operation.

What about kdesu foo? Does it work wit guitoo?

It is not the size of the hammer that counts. It's how you wiled it.
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Gentoo only?

by kwr2k on: Sep 29 2004

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So is this app for gentoo linux users only ... or can us lesser mortals use it as well?

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Yes, but

by tizzyd on: Sep 29 2004

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Having made the switch about 1 year ago, I can say I'm impressed. I used SuSE for years. It's not that I do not like SuSE or any other RPM/deb distro. I just found that with Gentoo, I HAD to learn more about the way my system was configured. Pre-compiled packages can shield you from such enlightenment. Now, I would not go back. A happy Gentoo user through and through.

. . . tizzyD
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Re: Gentoo only?

by secretmethod70 on: Sep 29 2004

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If I'm not mistaken, portage CAN be installed on other Linux distro's. However, unless you've done this, I don't see how this app could be of any help to you if you don't use Gentoo.

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10 times faster!

by uga on: Oct 5 2004

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uga

Yeap, I install apps by hand ten (10) times faster than using this app.

Man, yes, the idea is good, but the steps usually are 1) Think 2) Design 3) Code

You seem to have instead 1) Code 2)Design 3)Release in your schedule

Sorry for being so harsh, but I don't think the need for selecting the packages I want ot install 3 times (yes 3!) before pressing the damn button to install them is reasonable.

Yes, the app works, but needs badly a redesign from scratch

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Re: 10 times faster!

by karye on: Oct 7 2004

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karye

The time consuming part when emerging is the compilation of the source.

The Gentoo docs recommed you to do an "emerge -pretend" before, to get feedback of which packages will be emerged to satisfy needed dependencies.

The purpose of the "emerge queue" is to collect all packages before launching any lengthy emerge process.

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Re: Re: 10 times faster!

by uga on: Oct 11 2004

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uga

>The Gentoo docs recommed you to do an >"emerge -pretend" before,

sure I do, but that doesn't mean it has to be done in 3 separate lists and checking 40-50 packs 3 times. That doesn't make sense in a gui.

It all can be done just by showing a dialog saying "this will be installed, do you agree? Else change the checkboxes and try again"

>The purpose of the "emerge queue" is >to collect all packages before >launching any lengthy emerge process.

Collect what??? They are already collected in a QListView. More than fine. Please let me explain how the process works right now and how it could better work:

1) I want to upgrade my system, so I go to upgradable packages tab, and press refresh list. So far you got an A
2) I choose 50 packs that I'm interested in. I add them to the package queue.... and damn! I wanted to install them, why aren't the boxes checked? Why do I need to check 50 boxes? Why not uncheck what I don't want? Or have a "select all" button? It'd take ages to upgrade the whole system.
3)Now that I agree to install those or some of those... I check the 50 packs again.. and oh! they turn up again in the right listview... guess what... unchecked!!!! why would I need that??? I need to check the 50 packages yet again? To check again what I already checked and verified??? I need to agree 4 times that I want to install the packages???
4) So I agree to do that.. desperated... and check 50 boxes yet again (and this is the 3rd time I choose the packages!)
5)Now I press emerge.. and funny... it dares to asks me again!.. you want to emerge them???

The way I would code all this would be:

1) choose your packs under upgrade
2) a single button is shown with emerge pretend action and shows a dialog "hey! I'm going to install all this stuff", you want it?
3) I happily press yes, and begins installing

note... this dialog works with 1 single tab. I only chose packs one time. I checked properly the pretend step. And no nonsense queueing is needed.

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Re: Re: Re: 10 times

by karye on: Oct 13 2004

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karye

Thanks for your feedback!
In next guitoo release, packages will be checked by default, and there will be an "Add all" button.
The last popup asking for confirmation should be there, since emerge will result in a system change.

I still think a package queue is useful.
The purpose is to allow the user to browse for packages, add them to the queue, and go back to the Portage Tree and browse for some more packages to emerge.
The user can repeat these steps till he/she has found all packages to emerge.
Then when satisfied, launch the emerge process.

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Re: Re: Re: Re: 10 times

by uga on: Oct 15 2004

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uga

Ok, that will make me happy enough next time I upgrade. Thanks a lot to you =)

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Re: Re: 10 times faster!

by turiya on: Nov 23 2004

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turiya

Absolutely, and your reasoning isn't flawed. Thats exactly why I like this app, because it makes such tasks easier.

Of course if you know exactly what you want to install, and/or installing just one or two packages a simple
"emerge guitoo -av" is quicker.

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GUIs are not always

by SubAtomic on: Oct 26 2004

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SubAtomic

... easier.

The graphical user interface is a great invention however it is sometimes easier to just use the CLI. I mean the beauty of portage is its amazingly simple, effective and efficient command line interface. I admire your enthusiasm but I really think that it would be better spent on a more useful application. Portage seems to be deliberately designed for simplicity and the command line interface.

"Computers in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons." -- Popular Mechanics, 1949.
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Re: GUIs are not always

by vide on: Nov 23 2004

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Always remember, pal, that do not have the right to say people how to spend their time, and what apps should they code.
If you don't like it, simply do not use it, and if you really need some other kind of app, study a programming language and do it yourself. This is the F/OSS way, you have to learn it.

"There is no stronger drug than reality"
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kde improvement?

by Superstoned on: Nov 23 2004

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Superstoned

one thing: guitoo isnt a KDE improvement, it should be Administration -> system tools.

:D

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Excellent !

by jowilly on: Nov 23 2004

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jowilly

This app is great ! Keep the work up !

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Kuroo

KDE System Tool

Excellent, but lacks

Re: Excellent, but l

Re: Re: Excellent, b

"2. Quite complicated to do. Need to restart app with new user to achieve that!" Wouldn't it be possible to write it as an admin-privileged KControl module? While I'm not versed in the specifics, I'd imagine it would take care of all the authentication business for you.

Re: Re: Excellent, but l

You might have a look to kpackage which can be use by a simple user, and ask for the password before doing an operation.

Re: Excellent, but lacks

>2. No way to start as normal user, and then enter root password for emerge operation. What about kdesu foo? Does it work wit guitoo?

Gentoo only?

So is this app for gentoo linux users only ... or can us lesser mortals use it as well?

Yes, but

Re: Gentoo only?

If I'm not mistaken, portage CAN be installed on other Linux distro's. However, unless you've done this, I don't see how this app could be of any help to you if you don't use Gentoo.

10 times faster!

Re: 10 times faster!

Re: Re: 10 times faster!

Re: Re: Re: 10 times

Re: Re: Re: Re: 10 times

Ok, that will make me happy enough next time I upgrade. Thanks a lot to you =)

Re: Re: 10 times faster!

Absolutely, and your reasoning isn't flawed. Thats exactly why I like this app, because it makes such tasks easier. Of course if you know exactly what you want to install, and/or installing just one or two packages a simple "emerge guitoo -av" is quicker.

GUIs are not always

Re: GUIs are not always

kde improvement?

one thing: guitoo isnt a KDE improvement, it should be Administration -> system tools. :D

Excellent !

This app is great ! Keep the work up !

"2. Quite complicated to do. Need to restart app with new user to achieve that!"

Wouldn't it be possible to write it as an admin-privileged KControl module? While I'm not versed in the specifics, I'd imagine it would take care of all the authentication business for you.

>2. No way to start as normal user, and then enter root password for emerge operation.

What about kdesu foo? Does it work wit guitoo?

Absolutely, and your reasoning isn't flawed. Thats exactly why I like this app, because it makes such tasks easier.

Of course if you know exactly what you want to install, and/or installing just one or two packages a simple
"emerge guitoo -av" is quicker.

one thing: guitoo isnt a KDE improvement, it should be Administration -> system tools.

:D