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Fuck the church, fuck religions, fuck god. Stop fucking children.




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 Not ALL religions bad

 
 by thoughtfulUser on: Mar 23 2010
 
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People, we need to carefully avoid blanket statements on this subject. Just because RCism is big and bad doesn't mean ALL religions are the same. For example, the Egyption Book of the Dead laid out ground rules for marriage that condemned marital unfaithfulness. Murder is condemned for religious reasons, etc.

Also, religion is a LOT older than 2000 years. (Cuneiform religious tablets, anyone?) I think we could all benefit by doing some reading on the subject.

Nevertheless, the history of RC hypocrisy is so bad it sucks dead toads.


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 Re: Not ALL religions bad

 
 by Bear73 on: Mar 23 2010
 
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When we, meaning people that live in a predominant christian society, talk of religion. There is only christianity and islam..
All that came before is referred to as mythology.
Religion, is one allmighty god, that you have to obey.
There is a long list of things you can and may not do.
The problem with that is that it was written 2000 years ago.
And what was acceptable then, might not, or should not be, acceptable today, in our global society.
Both the Koran and the Bible needs some serious updates. A lot have happened in 2000 years.
Take the example of pork.
At the time the koran was written, hygiene was a serious problem. Bacteria was deadly. And pigs had a lot of bacteria in them.
So, in order to secure public health, they wrote in the koran, that pigs were dirty.
A good move, at the time but not really relevant in 2010.
If you're studying at college, you want new books. You don't want books that are a hundred years old. Because a lot has happened in 100 years. New discoverys and methods to do things.
Yet, christians are happy to read and rely on a book that is 2000 years old.

As for mythology..
The big difference is, that gods were equals.
The gods, might be powerful, but they didn't interfere with our daily lives.
They represented the forces of nature.
You could offer gifts to the gods, for them to help you.
But you could quite happily go on with your daily life without worrying about wether god will approve of what you are doing.
It was a more natural interaction, than the dictatorship of the one god.


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 thanx to everybody

 
 by mtax on: Mar 23 2010
 
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My website has never been so visited since I upload this wall in here! Thanx to all haters (aka believers), I will win a little money because of it. Thanx to that stupid asshole named god hahaha!


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 Re: thanx to everybody

 
 by Meepish on: Mar 23 2010
 
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You're welcome :P Let's see... you win at getting some people to view your website. You fail at being a decent person respectful towards others. Congratulations?


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 Re: Re: thanx to everybody

 
 by mtax on: Mar 23 2010
 
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I already said I cannot respect fools who talk to an imaginary friend. I really tried, but I can't,they make me laugh!

Congrats to me... well, that's cool for me (i'm not rich yet, but hey, as I always say "un sou est un sou".). But thank to aaaall stupid believers who clicked on the link to my website! Your hate gave me money :D


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 Re: Re: Re: thanx to everybody

 
 by Meepish on: Mar 23 2010
 
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Well, so you just admitted that you're a fanatic. :P Maybe one day we'll be a rich fanatic, but having a lot of money doesn't make you a better person.


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 Re: Re: thanx to everybody

 
 by Padster on: Mar 23 2010
 
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+1


What do you get when you multiply six by nine?
42.

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 Bye

 
 by Bear73 on: Mar 23 2010
 
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This has been interesting...
But as always, when you talk to defenders of the almighty. They start repeating themselves and you end up saying, their probably right. Just to shut them up...
Ten-four rubberduck... I'm landing this baby...

So goodbye, you silly knickets
Your mother was a hamster and your father smelled of elderberry...

May the force be with you


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 I'm sorry for what happened

 
 by fredbird67 on: Mar 23 2010
 
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Mtax, I'm very sorry about what happened to you. If it was a priest who violated you, then I can't say that I blame you for feeling this way. However, you can't blame this on God -- after all, he's not the one who violated you -- it was the priest who did, who's supposed to be one of God's ambassadors here on Earth -- and I'll say he definitely failed that job, big-time.

As a Bible-believing, God-fearing Christian (Southern Baptist, to be exact), I find it especially sad that there are a few ministers who would violate children like this. After all, it can REALLY scar them for life whenever anything having to do with Lord is brought up.

Nothing like this ever happened to me personally as a child, therefore I'll be honest and say that I can't relate to how you feel, so I'm probably not the best one to talk here. But in any case, you will definitely be in my prayers. After all, whoever abused you will have to answer to the Lord one day for his misdeeds (Matthew 18:6, Mark 9:42, and Luke 17:2).


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 Re: I'm sorry for what happened

 
 by mtax on: Mar 24 2010
 
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Wow!! You misunderstood everything dude! First, I never have been violated. Did your imaginary friend told you I have been..? Stop believe everything that you hear in your head... You can't trust god!


Then, you don't know anything about this minister. Yes, he is an ass, a liar, but no, he is not a pedophile. He is gay, that's it. In one of a book he wrote, he explain a sexual experience with a man in Thailand. Some stupid people who did not read the book said that it was a child because this minister calls guys "boys" (as almost every gay people in france do). But this "boy" was taller and stronger than the minister. I don't know any child taller and stronger than Frederic Mitterrand.


And for the end, VERY IMPORTANT NOTE, I don't give a damn shit about your prayers and I don't care to be in it. I got a scoop for you : every believers pray for people in Haiti, but you know what? God did not do anything. And you know why? Because god is a fucking joke! And you know what? I fuck Mattew, Mark, Luke, the others, Jesus, and god, but I helped more with giving money to help Haitian people than every believers by praying for them.

Don't be so condescending, stop talking to a non-existing entity, start acting for real and existing people.


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 I can't believe your rudeness

 
 by fredbird67 on: Mar 24 2010
 
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OK, so I had made a wrong assumption or two about your situation. But that was NO reason whatsoever to react with such HATRED, VITRIOL, and EXTREME RUDENESS. That was UNCALLED FOR.


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 Re: I can't believe your rudeness

 
 by Cycron on: Mar 24 2010
 
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Yes... completely agree... he is extremely rude... and he swears a lot. And what he answered was completely uncalled for. And I really don't this is the appropriate site for having this kind of arguement. (I mean, come on! This is a site about Linux, and free software, what does that have to do with this???)


Do not offer what you think is best, offer many and let them choose. - Me (Cycron)
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 Thanx, Cycron

 
 by fredbird67 on: Mar 24 2010
 
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Yeah, I'll admit that most of this thread is off-topic, but thanx for agreeing with me, Cycron. Wow...I'll just say that MTax must have a LOT of problems and some very deep anger issues...


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 Re: Thanx, Cycron

 
 by mtax on: Mar 24 2010
 
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I got no problem, I got a beautiful and very sweet girlfriend, I got a job I really love, I got my own house, a car, and a dog.
You think I have problems only because I say that religion is the source of every problems on earth. Come on, we are in 2010, stop acting like a savage with your fucking "holy" book! What next? Dance of rain around a fire?

Dude, people who believe in god are the ones who have a serious problem!


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 Re: Re: Thanx, Cycron

 
 by Padster on: Mar 24 2010
 
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did u notice that all the things u mentioned are material? u didn't say that you are a nice, respectful, helpful person.


What do you get when you multiply six by nine?
42.


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 Big difference.

 
 by Cycron on: Mar 23 2010
 
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To say this without taking sides I would say:
There is a difference between uploading artwork that "advertises" their religion, and uploading artwork that insults another religion.

But what is your religion? Do you believe we came from monkeys?


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 Re: Big difference.

 
 by Padster on: Mar 23 2010
 
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+1


What do you get when you multiply six by nine?
42.

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 Re: Big difference.

 
 by Bear73 on: Mar 24 2010
 
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We are monkeys...
Just look in the mirror and you'll see.


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 Re: Re: Big difference.

 
 by Cycron on: Mar 24 2010
 
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maybe you are... but I'm not.


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 Re: Re: Re: Big difference.

 
 by Padster on: Mar 24 2010
 
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me neither.


What do you get when you multiply six by nine?
42.

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 Re: Big difference.

 
 by mtax on: Mar 24 2010
 
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No, but I beleive in science. And science says that monkeys and us have common ancestors.


Actually, I believe in a lot of things. But I will never beleive in something that just don't exist!
Religion is only for fools and for people who don't whant to understand. For a stupid mind, it's much more easier to say "it's god" than to look for an answer.
And when they don't know, beleivers will never say "I don't know, but I want to find an answer", they will say "God moves in mysterious ways".

And you, do you believe that your imaginary friend made earth in 7 days?


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 Re: Re: Big difference.

 
 by Cycron on: Mar 24 2010
 
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do you also believe that Albert Einstein was a genius?


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 Re: Re: Re: Big difference.

 
 by mtax on: Mar 24 2010
 
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Yes he was a freaking genius!


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Big difference.

 
 by Cycron on: Mar 24 2010
 
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OK... this is long, but read it.

Let me explain the problem science has with religion.'

The atheist professor of philosophy pauses before his class and then asks one of his new students to stand.

'You're a Christian, aren't you, son?'

'Yes sir,' the student says.

'So you believe in God?'

'Absolutely. '

'Is God good?'

'Sure! God's good.'

'Is God all-powerful? Can God do anything?'

'Yes'

'Are you good or evil?'

'The Bible says I'm evil.'

The professor grins knowingly. 'Aha! The Bible! He considers for a moment. 'Here's one for you. Let's say there's a sick person over here and you can cure him. You can do it. Would you help him? Would you try?'

'Yes sir, I would.'

'So you're good!'

'I wouldn't say that.'

'But why not say that? You'd help a sick and maimed person if you could. Most of us would if we could. But God doesn't.'

The student does not answer, so the professor continues. 'He doesn't, does he? My brother was a Christian who died of cancer, even though he prayed to Jesus to heal him. How is this Jesus good? Can you answer that one?'

The student remains silent. 'No, you can't, can you?' the professor says. He takes a sip of water from a glass on his desk to give the student time to relax. 'Let's start again, young fella. Is God good?'

'Er..yes,' the student says.

'Is Satan good?'

The student doesn't hesitate on this one. 'No.'

'Then where does Satan come from?'

The student falters. 'From God'

'That's right. God made Satan, didn't he? Tell me, son. Is there evil in this world?'

'Yes, sir..'

'Evil's everywhere, isn't it? And God did make everything, correct?'

'Yes'

'So who created evil?' The professor continued, 'If God created everything, then God created evil, since evil exists, and according to the principle that our works define who we are, then God is evil.'

Again, the student has no answer. 'Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things, do they exist in this world?'

The student squirms on his feet. 'Yes.'

'So who created them?'

The student does not answer again, so the professor repeats his question. 'Who created them?' There is still no answer. Suddenly the lecturer breaks away to pace in front of the classroom. The class is mesmerized. 'Tell me,' he continues onto another student. 'Do you believe in Jesus Christ, son?'

The student's voice betrays him and cracks. 'Yes, professor, I do.'

The old man stops pacing. 'Science says you have five senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Have you ever seen Jesus?'

'No sir. I've never seen Him.'

'Then tell us if you've ever heard your Jesus?'

'No, sir, I have not..'

'Have you ever felt your Jesus, tasted your Jesus or smelt your Jesus? Have you ever had any sensory perception of Jesus Christ, or God for that matter?'

'No, sir, I'm afraid I haven't.'

'Yet you still believe in him?'

'Yes'

'According to the rules of empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your God doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?'

'Nothing,' the student replies.. 'I only have my faith.'

'Yes, faith,' the professor repeats. 'And that is the problem science has with God. There is no evidence, only faith.'

The student stands quietly for a moment, before asking a question of His own. 'Professor, is there such thing as heat? '

Yes.

'And is there such a thing as cold?'

'Yes, son, there's cold too.'

'No sir, there isn't.'

The professor turns to face the student, obviously interested. The room suddenly becomes very quiet. The student begins to explain. ' You can have lots of heat, even more heat, super-heat, mega-heat, unlimited heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat, but we don't have anything called 'cold'. We can hit down to 458 degrees below zero, which is no heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold; otherwise we would be able to go colder than the lowest -458 degrees. Every body or object is susceptible to study when it has or transmits energy, and heat is what makes a body or matter have or transmit energy. Absolute zero (-458 F) is the total absence of heat. You see, sir, cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat we can measure in thermal units because heat is energy. Cold Is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it.'

Silence across the room. A pen drops somewhere in the classroom, sounding like a hammer.

'What about darkness, professor. Is there such a thing as darkness?'

'Yes,' the professor replies without hesitation. 'What is night if it isn't darkness?'

'You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is not something; it is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light, but if you have no light constantly you have nothing and it's called darkness, isn't it? That's the meaning we use to define the word. In reality, darkness isn't. If it were, you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn't you?'

The professor begins to smile at the student in front of him. This will be a good semester. 'So what point are you making, young man?'

'Yes, professor. My point is, your philosophical premise is flawed to start with, and so your conclusion must also be flawed.'

The professor's face cannot hide his surprise this time. 'Flawed? Can you explain how?'

'You are working on the premise of duality,' the student explains. 'You argue that there is life and then there's death; a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, science can't even explain a thought.' 'It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life, just the absence of it.' 'Now tell me, professor.. Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?'

'If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, young man, yes, of course I do.'

'Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?'

The professor begins to shake his head, still smiling, as he realizes where the argument is going. A very good semester, indeed.

'Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you now not a scientist, but a preacher?'

The class is in uproar. The student remains silent until the commotion has subsided. 'To continue the point you were making earlier to the other student, let me give you an example of what I mean.' The student looks around the room. 'Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the professor's brain?' The class breaks out into laughter. 'Is there anyone here who has ever heard the professor's brain, felt the professor's brain, touched or smelt the professor's brain? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain, with all due respect, sir.' 'So if science says you have no brain, how can we trust your lectures, sir?'

Now the room is silent. The professor just stares at the student, his face unreadable. Finally, after what seems an eternity, the old man answers. 'I Guess you'll have to take them on faith.'

'Now, you accept that there is faith, and, in fact, faith exists with life,' the student continues. 'Now, sir, is there such a thing as evil?' Now uncertain, the professor responds, 'Of course, there is. We see it everyday. It is in the daily example of man's inhumanity to man. It is in the multitude of crime and violence everywhere in the world. These manifestations are nothing else but evil.'

To this the student replied, 'Evil does not exist sir, or at least it does not exist unto itself. Evil is simply the absence of God. It is just like darkness and cold, a word that man has created to describe the absence of God. God did not create evil. Evil is the result of what happens when man does not have God's love present in his heart. It's like the cold that comes when there is no heat or the darkness that comes when there is no light.'

The professor sat down.

If you read it all the way through and had a smile on your face when you finished, mail to your friends and family with the title 'God vs. Science'

PS: the student was Albert Einstein

Albert Einstein wrote a book titled God vs. Science in 1921.


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Big difference.

 
 by Padster on: Mar 24 2010
 
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total epicness.
+9001
(that's over 9000!)


What do you get when you multiply six by nine?
42.

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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Big difference.

 
 by mtax on: Mar 24 2010
 
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that's a fucking good argument "+1" or "+9001". Absolutely christian : nothing to say cause nothing in your head!


Go fuck your god and masturbate on that shit called bible. And shut your hole!


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Big difference.

 
 by Padster on: Mar 24 2010
 
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hmm, mtax, i said that because i completely agree with the above post, and think it is a very good argument. not because i am dumb.


What do you get when you multiply six by nine?
42.


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Big difference.

 
 by japc on: Mar 24 2010
 
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Of course that you know that that is a bogus story. If Einstein was religious he was at most jewish, not christian.

A proven Einstein quote is 1954's "The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weakness, the Bible a collection of honorable, but still purely primitive, legends which are nevertheless pretty childish."

Get your story straight. I know it's hard after the brainwash (I rather call it lobotomy but it's reversible) but it's a fun and rewarding thing to do.


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Big difference.

 
 by Cycron on: Mar 24 2010
 
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Oh, then why don't you read his book? God vs Science.


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Big difference.

 
 by Bear73 on: Mar 24 2010
 
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This sounds like something from Scientology.
What a load of brainwashing bullshit.

I could use the same kind of arguments to "prove" that the moon is a giant cheese.

It is so far away, that you can't smell it.
And because you can't smell it. You don't know for certain that it doesn't smell like cheese.
And because it might smell like cheese, theres a great possibillity that, it is in fact a cheese.


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Big difference.

 
 by japc on: Mar 24 2010
 
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http://www.snopes.com/religion/einstein.asp

I searched for the book mentioned and nothing. Is it as illusive as your god? As bogus?

Please let's get this over with so that I may remove the brain downclocking, it's getting me dizzy.


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Big difference.

 
 by Cycron on: Mar 24 2010
 
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oops... I should have caught that chain mail and checked if it was valid before posting.

But can you answer this question: You believe we came from monkeys, where did the monkeys come from?


Do not offer what you think is best, offer many and let them choose. - Me (Cycron)

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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Big difference.

 
 by rowancompsciguy on: Mar 24 2010
 
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Evolution doesn't say we "came from monkeys". Evolution says we share a common ancestor. If you're simply asking where did monkeys come from, they came from their ancestors. If you're asking where did life come from, that's not a question answered by evolution. Evolution is simply an explanation of the diversity of life.

The origin of life is covered by a topic called abiogensis. Scientists aren't currently sure how life begin on earth but they do know that it is possible for life to come from non-life as they have been able to produce the building blocks of life, amino acids, from non-life in a controlled environment.


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Big difference.

 
 by OxayotlTheGreat on: Mar 11 2011
 
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Einstein was vegetarian, and an advocate for vegetarianism. And I'm vegetarian. Therefore, I win. So, it means you loose. So, since I'm the winner, I decide there is no god.

I pwnd you. You don't stand a chance against your vegetarians overlords !


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 Re: Re: Big difference.

 
 by Padster on: Mar 24 2010
 
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the days doesn't need to mean 24 of our hours, it could just be divided into seven parts.


What do you get when you multiply six by nine?
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 Re: Re: Re: Big difference.

 
 by japc on: Mar 24 2010
 
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Yes, it could be 1.9 billion year days (god was undecided on day duration and 16*10^12h days seemed ok at the time).

Or, this is my favorite, it could all just be a bronze age fairy tale.


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 To Padster

 
 by Bear73 on: Mar 24 2010
 
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The correct answer to your question is 54.

Not 42 +1

But if you keep writing +1 emough times you will eventually get to 54.


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 Re: To Padster

 
 by Cycron on: Mar 24 2010
 
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you don't understand... he is talking about The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/42_%28number%29#In_The_Hitchhiker.27s_Guide_to_the_Galaxy


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 Re: Re: To Padster

 
 by japc on: Mar 24 2010
 
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Do you believe there's such a thing as a Galaxy? Do you believe in maths? As it seems you have problems with sciences.


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 Re: Re: Re: To Padster

 
 by Cycron on: Mar 24 2010
 
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Ah... but you're forgetting, Evolution is a theory!!!


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: To Padster

 
 by mtax on: Mar 24 2010
 
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ah, but you 're forgetting, god isn't even a theory, it's a story!


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: To Padster

 
 by japc on: Mar 24 2010
 
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Indeed. And it does not account for a species so common this days, the Troll.

Now, compare the theory of Evolution to the vapory of Creationism. Or the jokery of Creationism (earth created in 7 days, really?).

You would hardly be using the Internet with the QED theory, had mp3 without the Acoustic theory, tv without the Antenna theory, had a nice life without Germ theory.

Have you been lobotomized?


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: To Padster

 
 by Bear73 on: Mar 24 2010
 
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Ah yes, we're not monkeys...
The earth is flat and nothing has changed for billions of years.
In fact Linux, has been around since God made earth.
Look out of your little cubicle and you will notice that evolution is happening every day..
Mankind is moving forward thanks to science.
It happens. And praying to God that it wont, doesn't help you.


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: To Padster

 
 by rowancompsciguy on: Mar 24 2010
 
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I promised myself that I wouldn't get involved, but seeing some of the comments on this thread, I feel compelled to speak out.

Sir, evolution is NOT "just a theory" you obviously have no concept of what a theory is. Evolution is on the same playing field as gravitational THEORY and atomic THEORY. Are you suggesting that gravity and atoms do not exist?


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: To Padster

 
 by Cycron on: Mar 24 2010
 
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...y'know I'm tempted to say "...says the pixelated mad guy" (your profile pic)... but that wouldn't really have anything to do with it. And, by the way, there is also a theory that says we came from rats... but you probably don't want to hear that one...


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: To Padster

 
 by japc on: Mar 24 2010
 
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You're confusing a theory with an hypothesis. There more to a theory than babbling unfundamented conjecture.

Now, we're doing all the heavy lifting here, you're not doing your home work. Get your facts straight. Read wikipedia page on "theory", don't need to get past the first part, we don't want your brain to explode with too much information.

Just be a bit more informed, please, you're making a fool of yourself.

Btw, how old are you? If you're past primary school I begin to think that you have problems. Where did you study science?



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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: To Padster

 
 by rowancompsciguy on: Mar 24 2010
 
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Citation please. Please show me a peer reviewed, scientific publication that states that humans came from rats.


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: To Padster

 
 by Cycron on: Mar 24 2010
 
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That was in my Science book. But, they said "rat-like creatures"... still I think it went along with the evolution theory, just that life came from underwater, then to fish, then slowly to rat-like creatures, then some of these rat-like creatures started living under ground, some started climbing trees, and some just stayed rat-like creatures... LIKE YOU! :D


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: To Padster

 
 by rowancompsciguy on: Mar 24 2010
 
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Your science book may have talked about the evolutions of species as it relates to linear time and in which case, yes, rats appeared before humans. However, this is not the same as saying humans came from rats. Evolution of species is best shown in a tree structure. Although rats came before humans, rats are on a completely different evolutionary branch than humans.

See this link for an example (I couldn't find one that plots the tree overtime, but this clearly shows primates and rodents on different evolutionary branches).

http://whozoo.org/mammals/mammalianphylo.htm


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: To Padster

 
 by rowancompsciguy on: Mar 24 2010
 
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I promised myself that I wouldn't get involved, but seeing some of the comments on this thread, I feel compelled to speak out.

Sir, evolution is NOT "just a theory" you obviously have no concept of what a theory is. Evolution is on the same playing field as gravitational THEORY and atomic THEORY. Are you suggesting that gravity and atoms do not exist?


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