Laptop external display hotplugging

I can't understand why people think that all the world is using ubuntu! those people are quite exactly like winzozz users!!
I'm starting to hate them, I'm sorry!! or better, a part of them..

Re: ubuntu

by qb89dragon on: Feb 15 2011

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Care to elaborate on your point in complete and meaningful sentences?

Re: ubuntu

by qb89dragon on: Feb 15 2011

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Oh, you are concerned that I put 'Ubuntu' in the description.
I just happen to do so for some of the following reasons:
- It has only been tested on Ubuntu
- It has been built and packaged for Ubuntu (deb)
- It ties into Ubuntu features, such as libnotify which cannot be guaranteed present in other distros
- It is hosted on Launchpad and will be updated through that (Ubuntu/Debian/etc)
- Ubuntu is the most popular distro with the strongest focus on usability and seamless ease of use, which makes it an ideal target for this kind of technology.
- You can port this to most mainstream distributions with 'alien', or could just figure out that it is written in python and you can strip out the libnotify components and run it as a daemon on any distro, even on KDE.

Re: Re: ubuntu

by brainvision on: Feb 15 2011

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yes exactly.. but this is a place for linux lovers,not ubuntu users!

Re: Re: Re: ubuntu

by qb89dragon on: Feb 15 2011

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This is also a place where people post things that they build for the community at no cost.
If someone brought cookies they baked themselves to a party, would you harass that person because they didn't make cookies in your favorite flavor?
Just because someone didn't make it for 'whatever-you-use-distro' does not suddenly entitle you to troll this site and harass other developers trying to help others have a better experience.
It's open source, if it's not right for you, take it, fix it, publish it yourself.
I built this because it solves a problem I was having. I didn't have to put it up on this site. In case it was of use to someone out there, it is put up here and packaged it with an installer. If you don't like free software, don't download it!
Nobody obliges me to make my software work for every single distribution known to man... lease of all yourself.

Re: Re: Re: Re: ubuntu

by brainvision on: Feb 15 2011

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yes man you are right.. the problem in fact is not the single contribution, but all the big number of contributions ONLY for ubuntu: themes, wallpapers, icons etc. etc. A large part of them are branded ubuntu, the rest are packaged for it!
you can understand that a non-ubuntu user coul start to think that something is wrong.. can't you??

but anyway I don't want to troll nothing and nobody, I can assure you! sorry if my post looked like it!!

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ubuntu

by qb89dragon on: Feb 15 2011

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Are you still upset that your video store doesn't have BetaMax?
Things come and go, and currently Ubuntu is gaining popularity with a larger and more mainstream crowd. With a greater base of users, and more popularity and media attention it is hardly surprising that the content on this site is growing organically towards ubuntu. Standing up to it would be like Egypt's Mubarek resisting popular uprising. As linux distros mature, there becomes less need to have 30+ distributions all promoting limited subsets of different ideas, and consolidating them helps developers hone their work in on accelerating the progress of a few distributions.

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ubuntu

by brainvision on: Feb 15 2011

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???????????????

ok,ok.. stop please! sorry again but please stop, ok?
thanks..

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ubuntu

by xyzzymagicat on: Apr 12 2011

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Not trolling, but for whatever it's worth: most of the content that's not for Ubuntu (here or elsewhere) also doesn't specify a distro or use a distro-specific repository; at most it uses a particular packaging type that most other distros also read. (DEBs packaged for Ubuntu often won't run even on other Debian-based distros.)

That's just something I've noticed as a "mainstream" user since leaving Ubuntu behind a year ago. The attitude folks from those other distros have is that the distros are like family members or flavors -- the real rivals are Windows & OS X. (I also noticed that the idea of Ubuntu being more user-friendly was already an outdated myth.)

I hope you have a good week!

Re: Re: ubuntu

by brainvision on: Feb 15 2011

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I put Ubuntu in the description???

wtf are you saying??? the problem is that this is ONLY for ubuntu!,I don't care a cent of the description!

Re: Re: Re: ubuntu

by gnumdk on: Feb 15 2011

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Mouahaha!

If you want stuff about your favorite distro on this site, just contribute, it's free software, you can package, create themes, wallpapers...

Sure, it's easy to speak while doing nothing...

Re: Re: Re: Re: ubuntu

by brainvision on: Feb 15 2011

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bla bla bla bla!

the same for you, man!

all my contents are posted at gnome-look.org; I'm a slackware package; I don't have knowledge on programming, but I don't think you have it, too..

anyway.. remember that if you know ubuntu, all you know is ubuntu! (I will not mention other half of the sentence, it's not so important)..

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ubuntu

by gnumdk on: Feb 15 2011

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>the same for you, man!

I do not have time to loose trolling about Ubuntu...

>all my contents are posted at gnome-
>look.org; I'm a slackware package; I
>don't have knowledge on programming,

Great, so where is the problem ? Do you wan't someone to tell you that posting slackware stuff sux ?

>but I don't think you have it, too..

Compiz, Rekonq, Oxygen-gtk, ...

Sorry but i hate Ubuntu haters (and i don't use Ubuntu).

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ubuntu

by brainvision on: Feb 15 2011

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you are the troll, man, 'cause if only a person try to say something that you don't like that's the result..

Re: Re: Re: Re: ubuntu

by cwickert on: Jun 25 2011

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So how would one package this for other distros if all people are publishing are Ubuntu binaries?

Where is the sourcecode and why is it not linked from this page?

Re: Re: ubuntu

by cwickert on: Jun 25 2011

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I am not concerned there is Ubuntu in the description, I am concerned that all that is offered for download are Ubuntu packages and there is no link to the sourcecode.

I know it's written in python, still this or alien cannot replace a proper source tarball. Please be so kind to link it from this page. TIA!

Re: Re: Re: ubuntu

by qb89dragon on: Jun 25 2011

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Thanks for your interest in trying this on other distros.
A little known fact about deb packages is they're just renamed tar.gz files that can be opened with your archive manager to reveal, in this case, the original python source file. The install script in there might also be useful as it copies a .desktop file to /usr/share/gnome/autostart

Problem

by wacmemphis on: Feb 19 2011

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unfortunately it doesn't work for me... nothing changes when i plug in an external monitor.
i don't know how to debug it, since it starts new threads...
i'm using intel gma graphics chip.

Re: Problem

by qb89dragon on: Feb 20 2011

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I will update this with an option to not daemonize. Then you should be able to see a python traceback of whatever happened. It's based off of the disper libraries. Perhaps you could try using that and see if it works for you switching displays from the command line with it.

Re: Re: Problem

by qb89dragon on: Feb 20 2011

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I've added the updates (via the ppa). You should be able to see what the problem is when running autoswitcher in a terminal as follows:

/usr/lib/autoswitcher/autoswitcher.py -v -d

Thanks for your help debugging this.

Re: Re: Re: Problem

by wacmemphis on: Feb 20 2011

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wacmemphis

ok, using just the internal monitor i get:

Initially Configured Displays set(['LVDS1'])
Resolution {'LVDS1': <switcher.resolutions.Resolution instance at 0x8a2f38c>}

plugging the external display in, doesn't result in any change.

however restarting the autoswitcher when the external monitor is plugged in, i get:

Initially Configured Displays set(['LVDS1', 'VGA1'])
Resolution {'LVDS1': <switcher.resolutions.Resolution instance at 0x90b838c>, 'VGA1': <switcher.resolutions.Resolution instance at 0x90b86ec>}

so it extends the desktop to both screens. unplugging the external monitor doesn't switch back to just the internal monitor...

any ideas?

Re: Re: Re: Re: Problem

by qb89dragon on: Feb 20 2011

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Hmm. It looks like you got no errors there and the detection is working fine if VGA1 shows up in that list. The displays should switch over completely not extend however.
To switch back the program waits for the display VGA1 to be removed from the list. I'll add a option (when I get back from work tonight) that shows the display polling results so you can see if VGA1 disappears from the list when you pull the plug on it.

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Problem

by wacmemphis on: Feb 23 2011

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did you update something? in the last days i had no time to check for updates. the latest version from the ppa does not show any events when i plug in a monitor...

Thank you!

by luv2hike on: Mar 2 2011

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This rocks! It works perfectly on my zareason laptop running mythbuntu 10.04. This saved me all kinds of time. Thanks for sharing it with us.

Re: Thank you!

by qb89dragon on: Mar 2 2011

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Thanks for the comment. I'm glad you like it. If you don't mind me asking, what GPU do you have. This is so I can add it to the list of ones known to work.

Re: Re: Thank you!

by luv2hike on: Mar 4 2011

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Hi. It's a laptop with NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M.

I did just discover one issue, though. My screensaver no longer works when using it as a regular laptop if the autoswitcher daemon is running.

After the idle timeout period, it starts to dim the display as normal, but then instead of showing the ants screensaver in GNOME, it returns to the desktop at the original brightness. Any ideas?

Re: Re: Re: Thank you!

by qb89dragon on: Mar 4 2011

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I'm guessing it turns off the screen when it puts the display to sleep by 'unplugging' the main display internally.
You can confirm this for me though by running
/usr/lib/autoswitcher/autoswitcher.py -v -d
and letting it kick on the screensaver, and post the output from the terminal up here so I can see what it's up to.
Thanks!

Re: Re: Re: Re: Thank you!

by luv2hike on: Mar 4 2011

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It didn't say much.

Initially Configured Displays set(['DFP-0'])
Resolution {'DFP-0': <switcher.resolutions.Resolution instance at 0x28fe050>}

Nothing more when the screensaver tried doing its thing. The daemon is still running though. Maybe I need to kill it first? What is the proper way to stop and start the daemon without a reboot?

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Thank you!

by qb89dragon on: Mar 4 2011

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The daemon runs at userlevel, not as a system service, therefore cannot write a pid file in the usual place - therefore it doesn't act like a normal daemon, more like pulseaudio or something like that.

Having more than one instance doesn't stop the detection parts from working however. But perhaps you could try and see if the issue persists after you have stopped the daemon.

Here's how to stop it:
ps -A -f | grep autoswitcher.py

and you have to look for something like this:

1000 1432 1 0 Mar02 ? 00:02:07 python /usr/lib/autoswitcher/autoswitcher.py

the number you're looking for here is 1432. So now you type in

kill 1432

and you won't have it running anymore.

To start it back up, run the following:
/usr/lib/autoswitcher/autoswitcher.py

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Thank you!

by luv2hike on: Mar 4 2011

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Ok, thanks. I killed the running daemon which was running as root so I used:

sudo pkill -f autoswitcher

Then I started it from the Terminal with -v -d and waited for the screen saver. Still the same thing: No other info except what I posted before from when it just starts up.

Ubuntu Natty 11.04

by boamaod on: Jun 17 2011

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Do you suppose it also works on Ubuntu 11.04?

Re: Ubuntu Natty 11.04

by qb89dragon on: Jun 18 2011

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Yes it's working fine for me on my macbook pro 5,5 running 11.04.

Failure

by cewanf on: Jun 29 2011

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Doesn't work for me on my Thinkpad T410 (intel graphics):

:~$ /usr/lib/autoswitcher/autoswitcher.py -v -d
Display Resolution Detected: 1440x900
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/lib/autoswitcher/autoswitcher.py", line 327, in <module>
autoModeSwitcher = ModeSwitchAutomator(menu, debug=options.verbose)
File "/usr/lib/autoswitcher/autoswitcher.py", line 99, in init
self.set_display_mode(self.mode, self.direction)
File "/usr/lib/autoswitcher/autoswitcher.py", line 172, in set_display_mode
self.sw.switch_clone(displays, resolution)
File "/usr/lib/autoswitcher/switcher/swxrandr.py", line 71, in switch_clone
ress = ResolutionSelection(res, displays)
File "/usr/lib/autoswitcher/switcher/resolutions.py", line 145, in init
self.set(sress, displays)
File "/usr/lib/autoswitcher/switcher/resolutions.py", line 165, in set
raise ValueError('unrecognised resolution selection')
ValueError: unrecognised resolution selection

Re: Failure

by qb89dragon on: Jun 29 2011

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I've updated it to try and correct the issue you're having. Give it a try when it becomes available in about 15 mins on the ppa.
Thanks!

Re: Re: Failure

by cewanf on: Jun 30 2011

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Thanks for the quick reply! I now get a slightly different error:

:~$ /usr/lib/autoswitcher/autoswitcher.py -v -d
Display Resolution Detected: 1600x1200
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/lib/autoswitcher/autoswitcher.py", line 322, in <module>
autoModeSwitcher = ModeSwitchAutomator(menu, debug=options.verbose)
File "/usr/lib/autoswitcher/autoswitcher.py", line 99, in init
self.set_display_mode(self.mode, self.direction)
File "/usr/lib/autoswitcher/autoswitcher.py", line 174, in set_display_mode
self.sw.switch_clone(displays, resolution)
File "/usr/lib/autoswitcher/switcher/swxrandr.py", line 71, in switch_clone
ress = ResolutionSelection(res, displays)
File "/usr/lib/autoswitcher/switcher/resolutions.py", line 145, in init
self.set(sress, displays)
File "/usr/lib/autoswitcher/switcher/resolutions.py", line 165, in set
raise ValueError('unrecognised resolution selection')
ValueError: unrecognised resolution selection